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Did Chilean Pres. Allende commit suicide?

 
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Did Chilean Pres. Allende commit suicide? Reply with quote

Leftist Chilean Journal Concludes Allende Killed Himself

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Saying that the ''historic truth'' should be known, a Chilean news magazine identified with the left has published a special report concluding that former President Salvador Allende committed suicide 17 years ago.

Although a reputable witness and ample other evidence had pointed to this conclusion from the outset, the article in the magazine Analisis last week seemed to be aimed at making the fact acceptable to the Socialists, Communists and others who supported Dr. Allende. The article appeared a week after Dr. Allende's remains were exhumed from an unmarked grave in Vina del Mar and brought to Santiago for a public burial attended by his family, President Patricio Aylwin and his Cabinet, and tens of thousands of mourners.

Analisis said the version that Dr. Allende was killed by the army as it captured the presidential palace was invented and spread by the Moscow radio and President Fidel Castro of Cuba within days of the coup on Sept. 11, 1973. ''In that way, the world left generated its own truth about what had occurred in the last minutes of the life of Allende,'' the magazine said.


The evidence strongly weighs against the allegations of a CIA assassination. But on the other hand you have Castro's word!
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chile investigates Allende's cause of death

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When Gen. Augusto Pinochet waged a military coup against President Salvador Allende, it was the start of nearly two decades of government repression in Chile. Thousands of people were disappeared, tortured and killed. As for Allende, he did not leave the presidential palace alive.

He was officially said to have committed suicide during the coup. His body, however, was recently exhumed, and while his family and many others still insist he committed suicide, an investigation has opened up the possibility that he may have been assassinated.
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Leon



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of who fired the shots, he was killed. He would have been killed if the army captured him, if it's true that he was not assinated. Considering the people involved, it would be hard to ever truly know the truth surronding the incident. Considering Pinochet's record for human rights, maybe killing himself would have been the sane option, but I lean towards assination still.
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northway



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Regardless of who fired the shots, he was killed. He would have been killed if the army captured him, if it's true that he was not assinated. Considering the people involved, it would be hard to ever truly know the truth surronding the incident. Considering Pinochet's record for human rights, maybe killing himself would have been the sane option, but I lean towards assination still.


This, essentially, though I tend to think that in the grand scheme of evil's perpetrated by that regime, Allende's death ranks fairly low.
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Dan Gerous



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a meaningless distinction. He knew he'd be killed, so he killed himself first (maybe). Not even worth wasting much time discussing.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leftist Chilean Journal Concludes Allende Killed Himself


A couple of weeks ago we found out it was Bush who should get the credit for killing bin Laden, now we find out the CIA maybe didn't kill Allende.

Sigh. It's a sad world when you can't even claim to kill someone and someone pops up and claims you didn't.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Leftist Chilean Journal Concludes Allende Killed Himself


A couple of weeks ago we found out it was Bush who should get the credit for killing bin Laden, now we find out the CIA maybe didn't kill Allende.

Sigh. It's a sad world when you can't even claim to kill someone and someone pops up and claims the credit.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan Gerous wrote:
It's a meaningless distinction. He knew he'd be killed, so he killed himself first (maybe). Not even worth wasting much time discussing.


I can think of far more inappropriate topics on a current events board. I know you can as well.
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goniff



Joined: 31 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm leaning towards assassination/murder. if you look back at the statements of nixon and kissenger at this time they wanted him (allende) out at all costs and supported the subsequent military coup d'etat actively(through the CIA)
allende's death had huge repercussions for chilean and world football as well.
the soviet union (ussr) refused to play the return leg of their world cup qualifying playoff due to the overthrow of allende and the execution of left wing prisoners in the santiago stadium. So Chile qualifyed automatically.
why was chile so important?
one word - copper
chile was then and still is the world's leading producer and exporter of this vital metal
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Regardless of who fired the shots, he was killed. He would have been killed if the army captured him, if it's true that he was not assinated. Considering the people involved, it would be hard to ever truly know the truth surronding the incident. Considering Pinochet's record for human rights, maybe killing himself would have been the sane option, but I lean towards assination still.



Regardless of whether he killed himself or not, he would have been a dead man and if captured, he would have been tortured. So what's the point of it all? His death is connected to the coup.
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