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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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 Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject: Privates... Is this true? |
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I saw this posted on the job information journal:
... speak up!
By the law, You are entitled to work outside the school you work for, UNLESS YOU SIGN a contract that takes that right away from you!
Recently there has been a lot of arrests of teachers, by the Immigration Korea. These arrests are due to the recent anti-west feelings (amongst radical groups) that took the form of a few journalists' complaints, and their saying that teachers send too much money out of Korea.
So, before you sign a new contract, tell the school or recruiter that you Want this sentence in your contract: 'The teacher is allowed to teach private students or to work elsewhere, in his off school time.'
It doesn't sound consistent with what I have read elsewhere on this forum.
Just curious,
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| One would still need the approval of immigration to work another job. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'll second that.
You still need immigration approval. And most times they don't give it. |
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| So, what do you think the circumstances would have to be for immigration to approve such a thing? How many people, I wonder would go to their employer and ask for it? |
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PatrickSiheung
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 5:03 am Post subject: |
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You ask something like that of your employer and they will simply force you to stay on-site at the school more, regardless if there's work to do or not. They'll see it as them not giving you enough to do. They pay you well and want their money's worth.
And even though this will probably start another long debate over whether or not privates are illegal... word from Incheon immigration is, Privates are illegal... even for an F2-1 holder like me. My wife asked back in March when we were getting me my visa. If I want to work at a hagwon, I still need an E2 only it would be a minor visa to my F2-1 and the director doesn't sponsor me... I simply go to immigration with the contract as proof and pay for the stamp.
I guess if you called the privates something like, Education Consulting or something it would be okay though. Just don't call them private English lessons and you might be okay... /shrug. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Privates... Is this true? |
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| SweetBear wrote: |
I saw this posted on the job information journal:
... speak up!
By the law, You are entitled to work outside the school you work for, UNLESS YOU SIGN a contract that takes that right away from you!
Recently there has been a lot of arrests of teachers, by the Immigration Korea. These arrests are due to the recent anti-west feelings (amongst radical groups) that took the form of a few journalists' complaints, and their saying that teachers send too much money out of Korea.
So, before you sign a new contract, tell the school or recruiter that you Want this sentence in your contract: 'The teacher is allowed to teach private students or to work elsewhere, in his off school time.'
It doesn't sound consistent with what I have read elsewhere on this forum.
Just curious,
Sb |
I saw this too. But look where the guy is posting from. He's in Thailand, NOT Korea. Why is that? Sounds like somebody got deported doing privates and wants some company. If it is legal why is he not over here making money? |
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Privates... Is this true? |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| SweetBear wrote: |
I saw this posted on the job information journal:
... speak up!
By the law, You are entitled to work outside the school you work for, UNLESS YOU SIGN a contract that takes that right away from you!
Recently there has been a lot of arrests of teachers, by the Immigration Korea. These arrests are due to the recent anti-west feelings (amongst radical groups) that took the form of a few journalists' complaints, and their saying that teachers send too much money out of Korea.
So, before you sign a new contract, tell the school or recruiter that you Want this sentence in your contract: 'The teacher is allowed to teach private students or to work elsewhere, in his off school time.'
It doesn't sound consistent with what I have read elsewhere on this forum.
Just curious,
Sb |
I saw this too. But look where the guy is posting from. He's in Thailand, NOT Korea. Why is that? Sounds like somebody got deported doing privates and wants some company. If it is legal why is he not over here making money? |
Yeah, it all sounds like BS to me. He's in Thailand, but trying to educate us poor naiive folks, sounding like we are all simply uninformed.My director would never allow it unless he could take a cut. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Technically, these are not privates. They are second-employments. Privates don't involve another school and you cannot get permission to do them in your situation. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| kangnamdragon wrote: |
| Technically, these are not privates. They are second-employments. Privates don't involve another school and you cannot get permission to do them in your situation. |
Although the OP didn't quote that particular line, the guy from the Job Information Journal whom the OP is referring to is indeed referring specifically to "privates", saying that you do have the legal right to do them [which is, of course, total BS]. |
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PatrickSiheung
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Since when does 'legal right' mean anything in Korea anyway? |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickSiheung wrote: |
| Since when does 'legal right' mean anything in Korea anyway? |
Some people prefer work that won't endanger their work visas and may result in a deportation. |
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PatrickSiheung
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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ummm okay. But what I posted wasn't really about privates. Don't understand why you responded the way you did 
I was saying that foreigners don't often get what they are legally entitled to. |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 3:48 am Post subject: |
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ummm okay. But what I posted wasn't really about privates. Don't understand why you responded the way you did
I was saying that foreigners don't often get what they are legally entitled to. |
Where do they? |
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PatrickSiheung
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Not sure LOL I just didn't want to say "never" and have someone prove me wrong. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Toby wrote: |
| PatrickSiheung wrote: |
ummm okay. But what I posted wasn't really about privates. Don't understand why you responded the way you did
I was saying that foreigners don't often get what they are legally entitled to. |
Where do they? |
I always do. That is why he did not say never. |
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