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Allthechildrenareinsane
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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: Why Are Some Schools Reluctant to Give LORs. . . |
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| . . .even if you're finishing out your contract and are on good terms w/ the boss? Just curious if there was some sort of reprecussion for the school. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Laziness could be one reason.
Here no one really uses a letter as a reference. They make calls. Letters are too much work  |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Offer to write it for them and they'll likely be all ears. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Laziness could be one reason.
Here no one really uses a letter as a reference. They make calls. Letters are too much work |
The only reason I ask is b/c the recruiter I found my new job through is saying I need to bring an LOR to Kimmi when I transfer my visa. I told her I won't need one if I go in the last week of my current contract for the visa transfer. This fell on deaf ears, of course. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Offer to write it for them and they'll likely be all ears. |
Actually, considering how lazy my boss is, this might work. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Laziness could be one reason.
Here no one really uses a letter as a reference. They make calls. Letters are too much work |
The only reason I ask is b/c the recruiter I found my new job through is saying I need to bring an LOR to Kimmi when I transfer my visa. I told her I won't need one if I go in the last week of my current contract for the visa transfer. This fell on deaf ears, of course. |
Kimmi doesn't need it. No one needs it. It is a superfluous document. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Laziness could be one reason.
Here no one really uses a letter as a reference. They make calls. Letters are too much work |
The only reason I ask is b/c the recruiter I found my new job through is saying I need to bring an LOR to Kimmi when I transfer my visa. I told her I won't need one if I go in the last week of my current contract for the visa transfer. This fell on deaf ears, of course. |
Kimmi doesn't need it. No one needs it. It is a superfluous document. |
This what I tried to explain to the recruiter. I don't know why she's insisting on it. I think I'll just get the info and documents together required for the visa transfer and go to Kimmi myself. |
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busanliving
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| Don't you need the letter to release that visa to be used by another school rather than getting a fresh visa for the new school (which requires a visa run)? |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:43 am Post subject: |
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When I transferred my old visa, my boss just really didn't know what it was so she gently refused at first. I brought in a standard one and got her to sign it. Maybe your boss is just lazy. Bring it to work and show him/her.
Here's the one I used:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zuspyns4perayfs
You'll have to fill out the top.
이 름: name
국 적: nationality
여권 번호: passport number
주 소: address
연 락 처: contact info |
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Mr Lee's Monkey
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject: clarification of LOR |
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| Seems some responses to this thread have confused Letter of Reference with Letter of Release - the op uses LOR in his heading without clarification - it is absolutely necessary to have a Letter of Release for a visa transfer. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Many Principals, Vice-principals, and co-teachers don't understand how the E-2 visa system works. Many of them leave it up to recruiters to handle everything. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: clarification of LOR |
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| Mr Lee's Monkey wrote: |
| Seems some responses to this thread have confused Letter of Reference with Letter of Release - the op uses LOR in his heading without clarification - it is absolutely necessary to have a Letter of Release for a visa transfer. |
False information.
If there is time left on your ARC after your contract finishes, you do not need a LOR. |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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That's a big "if". You shouldn't just take a job because you can avoid one LOR. You may need to get one eventually if you pick the wrong school.
Take your time and choose a good school. It's better to get the LOR and then you don't have to worry about time constraints. |
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Mr Lee's Monkey
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: LOR and visa transfer |
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| Thanks SeoulNate, my mistake. I've never done a transfer after having completed a full year or contract, and when I did complete full years a few times, there was no time left on my ARC. My Bad. |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Offer to write it for them and they'll likely be all ears. |
Actually, considering how lazy my boss is, this might work. |
This is standard practice. Even if the person I'm asking writes in perfect English, I'm always asked to write my own reference letter. It really isn't presumptuous to approach somebody with a reference letter written for yourself, by yourself, with the "writer's" name and info already on there, and just ask them, sweetly, to sign it. |
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