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youppi315
Joined: 11 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: How important are the recommendation letters? |
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As I alluded to earlier, I attend a VERY large state university. I haven't really gotten to know any of my professors at all (this is common here).
I'm a tutor and perhaps my boss could write one but I wouldn't even know how to tell her and where to have her send it.
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: Re: How important are the recommendation letters? |
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youppi315 wrote: |
As I alluded to earlier, I attend a VERY large state university. I haven't really gotten to know any of my professors at all (this is common here).
I'm a tutor and perhaps my boss could write one but I wouldn't even know how to tell her and where to have her send it.
Thanks in advance!  |
Going to a hagwan = doesn't matter.
Applying to a public school = must have (on letterhead) but nobody checks them other than to tick the box to show they were included.
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Go to a class where you got an A and have the prof comment on your strong grade rather than on your personal character. |
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youppi315
Joined: 11 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:22 am Post subject: Re: How important are the recommendation letters? |
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ttompatz wrote: |
youppi315 wrote: |
As I alluded to earlier, I attend a VERY large state university. I haven't really gotten to know any of my professors at all (this is common here).
I'm a tutor and perhaps my boss could write one but I wouldn't even know how to tell her and where to have her send it.
Thanks in advance!  |
Going to a hagwan = doesn't matter.
Applying to a public school = must have (on letterhead) but nobody checks them other than to tick the box to show they were included.
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Must they be from a professor or could they be non-academic? Of course, in the U.S., only academic letters fly but I could easily get something from the current or past employers - no sweat. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: Re: How important are the recommendation letters? |
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youppi315 wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
youppi315 wrote: |
As I alluded to earlier, I attend a VERY large state university. I haven't really gotten to know any of my professors at all (this is common here).
I'm a tutor and perhaps my boss could write one but I wouldn't even know how to tell her and where to have her send it.
Thanks in advance!  |
Going to a hagwan = doesn't matter.
Applying to a public school = must have (on letterhead) but nobody checks them other than to tick the box to show they were included.
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Must they be from a professor or could they be non-academic? Of course, in the U.S., only academic letters fly but I could easily get something from the current or past employers - no sweat. |
Letters from past employers are perfectly acceptable (with the proviso that they are on letterhead).
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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why have they become so militant about this? it isn't always easy to get letters on official letterhead. i mean many bosses dont want to be bothered with this. they just want to say use their phone number and give them a call. even in korea some coteachers seem to feel this way. boy, i'll be glad when this recession ends and the power flips back to us! i tell you i never had to go through all these hoops to get my first EPIK job. just spoke to a recruiter, answered some questions on the phone about korea having 4 seasons, and hopped on a plane about 3 and a half weeks later. was quite simple really. |
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Bruce W Sims
Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Illinois; USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid those days are probably long gone by now. Let me share a little something.
My choice to teach Overseas---particularly in Korea---started quite a long time ago. Responsibilities of Life always seemed to get in the way, but that didn't mean that I didn't talk about it. When I did, the universal response was, effectively, that people who went overseas were folks who couldn't cut it here in the States.
Meanwhile, back here in the States, people started to get a little tired of hearing about how individuals could get all the way to College and not be able to read beyond Grade School material or write a thoughtful sentence.
I think what is beginning to happen is that people are beginning to appreciate that there is a highly outdated and slip-shod approach to Education which will simply no longer cut it. Here in the States Education falls into one of three general categories. There are the Professional Schools for Doctors and Lawyers etc, the Technical Schools for the Scientists and Engineers etc. and the Vast Numbers of institutions for processing the hundreds of thousands of individuals who are simply going to class at a University because its the next step in the Life chain of events.
With the number of Financial events of recent years people have come to expect that if they are going to attend a school and put down their hard-earned money and time, they damn-well want to realize some advantage or benefit for their efforts. Some schools deal with this by becoming "paper mills" (IE. "Pay your fees and collect your B-s".) But other agencies are beginning to really tighten the screws on the teachers to actually produce measurable change in the Students core understanding and information set. This is a huge part of what Teaching is all about.
All of which is to say that I don't expect that any intelligent hiring agency is ever going to satisfied with hiring just anyone with a pulse to babysit students and collect fees. FWIW.
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
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