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theevilgenius
Joined: 10 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: Looking to start playing guitar!! |
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I want to buy a guitar and am wondering does anyone know if I can get a decent sounding acoustic one for around 200,000won, please help me out with make and model if you can, cheers! PS I'm not in Seoul so won't be making a trip up there for a guitar so please don't tell me to check shops out up there. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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As counter-intuitive as it sounds, cheap acoustics are only for experienced players. You will not sound good-no matter how hard you try-as a beginner on a cheap acoustic guitar. I believe this is the number one reason many beginners become disinterested in playing.
Acoustic guitars use heavy strings and have high action (the distance between the string and the fret board.) If you have no calluses, it will feel like you are slowly sanding off the tips of your fingers, and you will often not be able to even make the strings connect well enough with the frets to make a sound other than "bzzz". Cheaper acoustics are especially notorious for this.
For 200'000, I'd recommend a cheap electric guitar. Electric is much easier on uncallused fingers, and you will sound like a better player than you are right off the bat, hopefully keeping your interest in playing. There are some very playable, dirt-cheap electrics these days too. Outside of Seoul, your best bet would be a Samick or Squire. If you can find one, Artec (a Korean company) makes an AWESOME sounding 3watt amp (I can't remember the model name, but you can't miss it, it's tiny) that you can find pretty much anywhere.
Happy playing! |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with what bob said. unless you chop trees for a living and have some serious calluses and finger strength, don't get a cheap acoustic. until you get to the upper echelons of guitars where the differences become minor, you get what you pay for.
get a cheap electric, a used fender squire stratocaster or something of the ilk and have a ball learning and getting the strength, speed and calluses before even looking at an acoustic.
edit: you might want to say where you are located. saying you're not in seoul without saying where you actually are isn't going to help many people.  |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Underwaterbob wrote: |
As counter-intuitive as it sounds, cheap acoustics are only for experienced players. You will not sound good-no matter how hard you try-as a beginner on a cheap acoustic guitar. I believe this is the number one reason many beginners become disinterested in playing.
Acoustic guitars use heavy strings and have high action (the distance between the string and the fret board.) If you have no calluses, it will feel like you are slowly sanding off the tips of your fingers, and you will often not be able to even make the strings connect well enough with the frets to make a sound other than "bzzz". Cheaper acoustics are especially notorious for this.
For 200'000, I'd recommend a cheap electric guitar. Electric is much easier on uncallused fingers, and you will sound like a better player than you are right off the bat, hopefully keeping your interest in playing. There are some very playable, dirt-cheap electrics these days too. Outside of Seoul, your best bet would be a Samick or Squire. If you can find one, Artec (a Korean company) makes an AWESOME sounding 3watt amp (I can't remember the model name, but you can't miss it, it's tiny) that you can find pretty much anywhere.
Happy playing! |
I agree with the above but if you can make a $200 acoustic end up sounding half-way decent, the minute you switch to a $1000+ guitar you will sound amazing. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Bob is on the money here.......never learn to play on a cheap acoustic. |
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sevenseven7
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Most likely you'll end up buying a much better guitar later on. Maybe you should invest now and get a mid-range? |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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sevenseven7 wrote: |
Most likely you'll end up buying a much better guitar later on. Maybe you should invest now and get a mid-range? |
I would say that this is a bad suggestion. If the OP doesn't bother learning then buying a mid-range would be a relatively expensive mistake. A cheap electric, as Bob suggests, is the way forward. I learned on an electric (a Guild). The lower end Guilds are relatively cheap and sound good. I'd highly recommend buying one, or a Squire, for your first electric. I didn't buy an acoustic until I had been playing for three years. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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people tend to give up once they reach the barre chords and they realize an F chord is hard as hell.
if strings and calluses are a problem, getting lighter gauged strings will help.
if you buy a cheap electric, you also need to buy a practice amp.
i'd go for an acoustic still, i taught myself on one and it set me back about 220$. |
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Sticks
Joined: 13 Mar 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Cheap Acoustic if you're positive you'll be continuing to learn guitar past the 'owwie owwie my fingertips feel burnt off' stage. I ended up getting a relatively cheap electric (Cort G250) it looks pretty, plays well and sounds good on a decent amp. There's a cheapo Crafter Acoustic in our room which i've tried to play on and it really rips into my fingers.
Get a cheap electric: It'll sound ok to good, you can adjust quite a few things on it once you've learnt a bit and it'll kill your fingers much, much less initially meaning you'll enjoy playing it more.
I would suggest http://www.justinguitar.com/ as well for learning and some beginner tips. Heck, he even suggests getting an electric.  |
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movybuf

Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Location: Mokdong
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:44 am Post subject: |
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I initially learned how to play on a super cheap piece of junk guitar. It was difficult at first, but I built up the calluses and strengthened my fingers in no time.
Then I moved up to a $300 Fender acoustic, which was a bit easier to play but I had an annoying ringing on the low E.
Now I have a 150,000 won Dexter DD-15-SN that sounds nice and is pretty easy to play. I would recommend it. The action is the same, or
Maybe even better than my old Fender. It doesnt have that annoying buzzing sound. Plus, it was half the price!
I also have a $3,000 dollar Taylor 610-CE acoustic/electric that is amazingly easy to play and sounds like a dream. Unfortunately, I don't get to play this one for a while because I'm afraid my 1 year old son will destroy it somehow. |
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pattyb
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Get the Best guitar you can afford. All good points. However, the better the guitar, the more enjoyment you'll get out of it and the more likely you will be inspired to play. The more inspired you are the more often you will practice and it will be a good investment. There is always a chance you'll quit but at least you'll have tried with a good instrument and it will fetch a few dollars as far as re-sell value.
On the other hand, if you buy a cheap guitar, it'll probably play and sound like crap, it won't inspire you to practice, and it won't be worth "crap" if you try to sell it.
JMHO but I've played for over twenty years and most players will agree with this. I think.  |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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methdxman wrote: |
... if you can make a $200 acoustic end up sounding half-way decent, the minute you switch to a $1000+ guitar you will sound amazing. |
True, provided trying to make that six-stringed, press-board box sound good doesn't wreck you in the first place. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Underwaterbob wrote: |
methdxman wrote: |
... if you can make a $200 acoustic end up sounding half-way decent, the minute you switch to a $1000+ guitar you will sound amazing. |
True, provided trying to make that six-stringed, press-board box sound good doesn't wreck you in the first place. |
I think it's a good filter, though! |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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There is a way to get the best of both worlds. Buy a semi-acoustic. It sounds good unplugged but the action is also easy to play. Go to craigslist and look for a guitar like an Epiphone Dot. It will cost more but when you sell it you will get a higher resale value.
Check out:
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/msg/2387909213.html
Haggle this person down then you will be sorted.  |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Seoulman69 wrote: |
There is a way to get the best of both worlds. Buy a semi-acoustic. It sounds good unplugged but the action is also easy to play. Go to craigslist and look for a guitar like an Epiphone Dot. It will cost more but when you sell it you will get a higher resale value.
Check out:
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/msg/2387909213.html
Haggle this person down then you will be sorted.  |
Good recommendation. I started on a semi-acoustic.......a 1964 Harmony H77......bought for 10 pounds!! |
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