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Congressman Ron Paul: As Awesome As He Seems?
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Congressman Ron Paul: As Awesome As He Seems? Reply with quote

As impossible as it may seem, I've only recently learned who Congressman Ron Paul is; I'm Canadian, was in Korea during the '08 US presidential election, and didn't pay much attention to it because I don't generally care for politicians.

[If you don't know who he is, I encourage you to watch all six parts of John Stossel's interview of Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJz81lAwY0M (part one)]

I can't remember ever being so inspired by a politician, and I hope the rumours are true that he'll throw his hat into the presidential election of 2012. My hope is that one day his policies as president will inspire a Canadian prime minister to take politics there in a similar direction, which would allow me to come back from my self-imposed economic exile.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is RP at his best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo

( or the remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM )

I've been following him since 2000. I was blown away at the support he received during the election.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he ran in 2012 (and won) he would be 80 by the end of his first term. If he ran with a solid V.P (who?), he could definitely be a goer. 80 is old but not that old.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent video, Mises: it almost gave me chills to hear something so poetic and brilliant.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
If he ran in 2012 (and won) he would be 80 by the end of his first term. If he ran with a solid V.P (who?), he could definitely be a goer. 80 is old but not that old.



If only it could be so ... but, it seems that Ron is getting a bit too old. I can see it and hear it when he speaks. Age is catching up to him. He's still a great man, but time is the master of all men.

Still, if he runs and if his health is as good as it is at present, he'd still be better than anyone else around.

Perhaps the best VP would be John Stossel.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Senior wrote:
If he ran in 2012 (and won) he would be 80 by the end of his first term. If he ran with a solid V.P (who?), he could definitely be a goer. 80 is old but not that old.



If only it could be so ... but, it seems that Ron is getting a bit too old. I can see it and hear it when he speaks. Age is catching up to him. He's still a great man, but time is the master of all men.

Still, if he runs and if his health is as good as it is at present, he'd still be better than anyone else around.

Perhaps the best VP would be John Stossel.


Haha, I should've thought of Stossel. Schiff would be good too.

80 is getting younger all the time, though. Our generation will be working into our 80s as a matter of course.
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.38 Special



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being president is hard, hard work. Look at most of the presidents and compare how they looked at their first day in office to their last -- they look like Hell. They usually bounce back after a couple of years of retirement, but the leader of the free world is all stress, all the time.

Frankly, I don't know if Paul can physically handle it. That said, if he feels he is up to it, he has my vote, no problem. But I won't encourage a man to cut his life short, even if it is for a great cause. That is a private decision.

Maybe his son could run as VP .... think about that for a minute Shocked
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Here is RP at his best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo

( or the remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM )

I've been following him since 2000. I was blown away at the support he received during the election.

Yes, he is in top form there, and I have been following him since before 1988 when I first voted for him for president.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes Ron Paul awesome is that he has planted the seeds of rEVOLution, a Libertarian revolution for peace, prosperity and freedom that is growing in the hearts of millions and still spreading and is the only hope for the future of mankind:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bitxwy6okn4&feature=player_embedded#!
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mises



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:

Yes, he is in top form there, and I have been following him since before 1988 when I first voted for him for president.


*bows*
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mises



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Israel:

http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-06-03/ron-paul-u-s-shouldnt-support-israels-gaza-blockade/

Captain Crazy is a damn good human being. One of the only ones in a prominent position.
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Sergio Stefanuto



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
Schiff would be good too.


Schiff for prez
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
On Israel:

http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-06-03/ron-paul-u-s-shouldnt-support-israels-gaza-blockade/

Captain Crazy is a damn good human being. One of the only ones in a prominent position.


That's why RP will never come close to being president
The jewish liberal media won't let the public take him seriously Laughing
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Leon



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Paul would be a disastrous leader. How he has as much support as he does amazes me, and that some of that support comes from other wise intelligent people adds to my amazement.

He wants to:

Withdraw from the U.N.

Withdraw from N.A.T.O

Wants to legitimize gold and silver as currency

Do away with corporate environmental and pollution regulation

Get rid of the Department of Education

His "We the People Act" included a provision that would allow local and state government the ability to bar atheists from office

He voted against the Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act of 2007 which states that anyone offering an open Wi-Fi Internet connection to the public, who "obtains actual knowledge of any facts or circumstances" in relation to illegal visual media such as child pornography transferred over that connection, must register a report of their knowledge to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children




Also for some one who claims to be against government spending...

"Paul's position is disingenuous because he often requests earmarks for bills that he supposedly knows will pass no matter which way he votes. For example, in 2007 he requested nearly $400 million dollars in earmarks in bills he voted against."

&

Paul himself has inserted appropriations for projects such as the renovation of a movie theater and subsidies for the shrimp industry, whereas reportedly, "neither of which is envisioned in the Constitution as an essential government function."

The sad part is that I agree with many of his positions such as on the war on drugs and voting against the Iraq war as well as many of his positions of social issues. I believe the problem with Ron Paul is that he filters everything through his ideology rather than what is most workable and provides the most benefit. Similar to his and Rands position on the civil rights act. When politicians hew too closely to a strict ideology nothing good happens.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Ron Paul would be a disastrous leader. How he has as much support as he does amazes me, and that some of that support comes from other wise intelligent people adds to my amazement.

He wants to:

Withdraw from the U.N.

Withdraw from N.A.T.O

Wants to legitimize gold and silver as currency

Do away with corporate environmental and pollution regulation

Get rid of the Department of Education

His "We the People Act" included a provision that would allow local and state government the ability to bar atheists from office

He voted against the Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act of 2007 which states that anyone offering an open Wi-Fi Internet connection to the public, who "obtains actual knowledge of any facts or circumstances" in relation to illegal visual media such as child pornography transferred over that connection, must register a report of their knowledge to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

What is your problem with these? Those are all good reasons to support him, especially the last one you mention. It is refreshing to see a politician with the spine to stand up against these silly, draconian, counterproductive, feel-good, boogeyman laws which only serve to increase government power by serving as a wedge to dislodge civil liberties.

But if you actually do support grandmas going to prison because they took a photo of their grandkid in the tub, toddlers torn from their parents because daddy took a pic of mom breastfeeding her newborn, or teens forced to register for life as predators because they sexted a topless photo to their boyfriends, don't derail the thread. See my America's Unjust Sex Laws thread.
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