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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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 Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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....not here to spread the gospel but I do find it interesting how much hate is generated on the left......
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/liberal_vs_conservative_a_spiritual_battle.html
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Without beating around the bush, I believe the battle being fought in America today goes beyond politics; right vs. left. It is a spiritual battle; good vs evil.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12
The mindset of the American left is a spirit of Antichrist which is man making himself God.
Before writing me off as a Bible nut, please hear me out. Understanding this reality will explain much of the left's behavior. Because they believe man is God, in their insane arrogance, the left think they can fix everything; legislate equal outcomes and even save or destroy the planet.
Make no mistake about it folks, we are in a spiritual battle. Ask yourself. Specifically, what about Sarah Palin inspires such visceral hatred from the left? The word is "wholesome."
For the most part, Palin promotes love for God, family and country. She is passionately determined to thwart Obama's plan to "fundamentally transformed America."
While realizing Palin is human and does not walk on water, Palin epitomizes heartland principles and values embraced by most Americans. Thus, we are Palin and Palin is us.
The large number of Christians in the Tea Party believe in right and wrong. The left has a huge problem with the concept of right and wrong. Their religion of liberalism embraces Moral Relativism.
For these reasons, Palin and Tea Party are as repulsive to liberals as showing Dracula the cross.
There is definitely an anti-wholesome, anti-goodness vibe coming out of Hollywood. Hollywood leftists are vehemently anti-death penalty. They rally around convicted murderers. These Hollywood libs pride themselves as being Lords of Compassion and Tolerance.
And yet, these same libs have a cow whenever someone merely suggests to a woman that she think twice before aborting her baby. Tell me there ain't something spiritually wrong with such a mindset.
Because liberal elitists think man is God, they assume moral authority to confiscate as much control over our lives as we simple-minded god-fearing peons will allow them, including procreation. I picked up a government-funded brochure at my local library which basically said birthing babies is an irresponsible abuse of the planet.
Folks, this is leftist control-freak hogwash! The seven billion people who live on the planet could fit in Texas enjoying about the same amount of living space as residents of New York. God said be fruitful and multiply. But then, what the heck does God know?
In her book Godless, Ann Coulter said, "If a Martian landed in America and set out to determine the nation's official state religion, he would have to conclude it is Liberalism, while Christianity and Judaism are prohibited by law."
I concur with Ms. Coulter. The mainstream media is controlled by zealots of liberalism who I believe are driven by a spirit of Antichrist; man is God. Thus, only man can and will fix everything.
Why does the left aggressively demand that we show utmost respect for every religion under the sun except Christianity? Remember when libs Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar stormed off the set of The View TV program when they concluded Bill O'Reilly discussed the world's Muslim problem?
And yet, Rosie O'Donnell outrageously stated "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America." Not one peep of disagreement or disapproval from the left.
Islam suppresses women. And yet, liberal self-proclaimed feminists Goldberg, Behar, and O'Donnell illogically defend Islam. These three feminists despise the extraordinarily successful Christian liberated woman, Sarah Palin. Rosie O'Donnell even lamented that Osama bin Laden did not get a fair trial.
These women would seem to have issues with America and Christians; a spirit of Antichrist. At the center of Christianity is a divine Jesus. If Jesus is God, the left is not.
Even our most liberal president ever, Obama, dissed heartland Americans for bitterly clinging to their god and guns. Would a true Christian berate folks for finding security in trusting God?
Like an episode of Star Trek, the left believes universal peace can be achieved via America apologizing and admitting to the world that we suck, surrendering our power, signing treaties and singing a few verses of Kumbaya.They believe the greatest source of evil in the world is warmongering Christian white guys like George Bush. If only Bush had "Given peace a chance."
Liberals always cater to man's lowest base instincts.
They hate standards for behavior, labeling all rebuke of bad behavior as being intolerant and judgmental. And yet, they believe without divine influence, man is capable of someday achieving universal peace. Totally absurd.
Christians believe that though we strive to do the right thing, the heart of man is critically flawed which is why we were in need of a savior, Jesus Christ.
Obama's promise to "fundamentally transform America" is a spiritual attack on our freedom, liberty, and culture.
Despite the left's relentless attempts to ban God from America's public square, the emergence and power of the Tea Party tells me God is still on our side.
Mr. Obama, though your liberal zealots perceive you to be "the messiah," God is still on the throne. Come November 2012, you're fired! |
....God, I hope so! |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| A polite request: could we possibly just have a single dedicated thread for all these American Thinker and Fox News articles? |
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stilicho25
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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@ Fox I thought we only did that with the conspiracy theory crap?
@ soupsandsandwich I agree that the stuff coming out of hollywood is obscene, but its also great. HBO in particular is just amazing with its recent shows. I think part of it is bad times sometimes breed great art.
I guess the ancient greeks had been on their play/festivals for hundreds of years before coming up with the classics that we read today, and the ones we read were all around (roughly) the Persian invasion to the pelop war. It was a brutal time, but It produced great art. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| @ Fox I thought we only did that with the conspiracy theory crap? |
It worked quite nicely with mises' non-conspiracy depression thread, keeping all the articles of a theme together and keeping the forum nice and tidy. I'm not saying the moderators should be involved or anything; I'm requesting voluntary organization of this material. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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So, the choice is a far left liberalists who are the Antichrist or a theocracy where someone or some people who interpret the word of God and decides what is best for me?
I don't like either but the former sounds more fun. |
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Patrick Bateman
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Location: Lost in Translation
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| soupsandwich wrote: |
Because liberal elitists think man is God, they assume moral authority to confiscate as much control over our lives as we simple-minded god-fearing peons will allow them, including procreation. I picked up a government-funded brochure at my local library which basically said birthing babies is an irresponsible abuse of the planet. |
It would take far too much time to properly address this entire article, but this section really popped out at me.
How is allowing freedom of people to properly dictate their own sexuality an attempt to, "confiscate as much control over our lives...as [we] will allow them"? If birth control is legal and/or made available over the counter, it doesn't force everyone to take it. If abortions are legal, it doesn't mean that everyone has to have them. The opposite cannot be said, however.
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I concur with Ms. Coulter. The mainstream media is controlled by zealots of liberalism who I believe are driven by a spirit of Antichrist; man is God. Thus, only man can and will fix everything.
Mr. Obama, though your liberal zealots perceive you to be "the messiah," God is still on the throne. Come November 2012, you're fired! |
Is this a soft "Yes" that God will be on the GOP ticket in the next election? |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| soupsandwich wrote: |
| ....not here to spread the gospel but I do find it interesting how much hate is generated on the left...... |
Do you not realize that this entire article is a hate-filled attack on the left?
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| Because they believe man is God, in their insane arrogance, the left think they can fix everything; legislate equal outcomes and even save or destroy the planet. |
Last time I checked, God wasn't occupying a seat in the legislative branch. We're pretty much forced to legislate these things. Unless... is the author espousing anarchy?
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| Ask yourself. Specifically, what about Sarah Palin inspires such visceral hatred from the left? |
While I can't speak for the left, I feel compelled to weigh in with my attitude towards Mrs. Palin.
1) She has assumed the mantle of the Supreme Anti-Intellectual, and any political figure that attempts to convince people to be proud of their lack of education and refusal to think outside their gut irks me to no end.
2) She helped co-opt the tea party movement, transforming a genuine protest against government waste and trampling of essential rights into just another face of the Republican party.
3) She ran out on her constituents. I hate quitters. Especially self-righteous ones.
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| There is definitely an anti-wholesome, anti-goodness vibe coming out of Hollywood. Hollywood leftists are vehemently anti-death penalty. |
Here's a perfect example of my first point from above. Only an anti-intellectual would contrast an opposition to capital punishment against 'anti-goodness.'
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| And yet, these same libs have a cow whenever someone merely suggests to a woman that she think twice before aborting her baby. Tell me there ain't something spiritually wrong with such a mindset. |
Abortion runs contrary to secular moral values as well. Marrying it with religion does nothing but damage to the anti-abortion cause.
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| Like an episode of Star Trek, [u]the left believes universal peace can be achieved via America apologizing and admitting to the world that we suck, surrendering our power, signing treaties and singing a few verses of Kumbaya. |
I'm curious, when exactly did conservatism stop being about government waste and start being about impoverishing Americans to police the rest of the world? |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| some conservative moron wrote: |
| The mindset of the American left is a spirit of Antichrist which is man making himself God. |
ugh. this is the writer creating an insipid article with the base assumption that there is infallibly, a god.
those of us who cherish thinking for ourselves and enjoy science over a perfect sparkly deity probably stopped reading at that sentence. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| those of us who cherish thinking for ourselves and enjoy science over a perfect sparkly deity probably stopped reading at that sentence. |
Yeah but he says after that, "Before writing me off as a Bible nut, please hear me out."
Come ON wishfulthinking, give the guy a chance!
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
While I can't speak for the left, I feel compelled to weigh in with my attitude towards Mrs. Palin.
1) She has assumed the mantle of the Supreme Anti-Intellectual, and any political figure that attempts to convince people to be proud of their lack of education and refusal to think outside their gut irks me to no end.
2) She helped co-opt the tea party movement, transforming a genuine protest against government waste and trampling of essential rights into just another face of the Republican party.
3) She ran out on her constituents. I hate quitters. Especially self-righteous ones. |
Pretty much. She's all campaign rhetoric and PR with nothing to back it up (unlike Ron Paul, who's been towing the same line for several decades). I can see why she would appeal to the lowest common denominator Christianoid crowd though. |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Pretty much. She's all campaign rhetoric and PR with nothing to back it up (unlike Ron Paul, who's been towing the same line for several decades). |
Agreed.....to an extent. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| 1) She has assumed the mantle of the Supreme Anti-Intellectual, and any political figure that attempts to convince people to be proud of their lack of education and refusal to think outside their gut irks me to no end. |
Yeah, nice. I found this invaluable in understanding the oddness of America's varied political agendas. "United States of Assholes".
http://www.dadwagon.com/2010/11/05/united-states-of-assholes/
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| But for now, this is what it�s all about: laughing and sneering and stomping on people�s heads (and then demanding apologies); saying no and sticking our fingers in our ears; ignoring not just scientific results but the whole theoretical framework behind science (a.k.a. the scientific method) because we assume scientists are just as big assholes as we are; and, overall, rejecting anything and everything, no matter if it might improve our lives, just because we can, and because it might seem sort of funny to watch the other guy squirm. We are the tantrum-throwing babies everyone says we are, and we�ll do anything we can not to grow up. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| And yet, Rosie O'Donnell outrageously stated "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America." Not one peep of disagreement or disapproval from the left. |
So she says radical Christianity, not just normal Christianity. Going by the numbers of radical Christians and radical Muslims, then saying it's only AS threatening (as opposed to more threatening) seems a bit of an understatement.
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| Even our most liberal president ever, Obama, dissed heartland Americans for bitterly clinging to their god and guns. Would a true Christian berate folks for finding security in trusting God? |
That's the best contradiction ever. They believe that trusting God will provide them with security, yet need a gun.  |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| That's the best contradiction ever. They believe that trusting God will provide them with security, yet need a gun. |
You're reaching mate. |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative: A Spiritual Battle |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| geldedgoat wrote: |
While I can't speak for the left, I feel compelled to weigh in with my attitude towards Mrs. Palin.
1) She has assumed the mantle of the Supreme Anti-Intellectual, and any political figure that attempts to convince people to be proud of their lack of education and refusal to think outside their gut irks me to no end.
2) She helped co-opt the tea party movement, transforming a genuine protest against government waste and trampling of essential rights into just another face of the Republican party.
3) She ran out on her constituents. I hate quitters. Especially self-righteous ones. |
Pretty much. She's all campaign rhetoric and PR with nothing to back it up (unlike Ron Paul, who's been towing the same line for several decades). I can see why she would appeal to the lowest common denominator Christianoid crowd though. |
Not to mention Palin gladly dishes out hate, with her sectarian "Real America" bull crap. |
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