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Adventurer
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 Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: CBC with misdemeanors... |
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| I have worked in Korea before where a background check showing that I had a DWI from 2002 was on my record, and I still managed to get a new visa. That, however, was back in 2008. How does K-Immigration look at individuals with single misdemeanors of the type I have? I would expunge it, but my state does not allow that no matter ow old the offense is. |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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If not expunged, can you get it sealed?
You'll be coming on the E-2 visa right? You might have to call immigrations or the consulate. IMO, your chances at a visa don't look that great. DWI is pretty serious. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
If not expunged, can you get it sealed?
You'll be coming on the E-2 visa right? You might have to call immigrations or the consulate. IMO, your chances at a visa don't look that great. DWI is pretty serious. |
I have had an E-2 visa before with that on my record, and a Korean Immigration officer gave me a visa regardless. That was back in 2008. I don't think I was the only to have had a DWI/DUI and obtain on E2. Yes, a DWI is serious, but it's not uncommon for a person to have had one DWI on his or her record once in his or her life, unfortunately. And, no, I cannot get it sealed. It happened in Texas. Other states like Arizona and California let people do that if they've only had one offense and a certain amount of time has passed. Obviously, I like that California and Arizona do that. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of question is this/answer are you looking for? You had an E2 WITH a mark on the record, so why would it be a problem this time? Has something else changed in this situation or what? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of question is this/answer are you looking for? You had an E2 WITH a mark on the record, so why would it be a problem this time? Has something else changed in this situation or what? |
Nathan, Korean Immigration is kind of arbitrary. Yes, I did get a visa back in 2008. However, I am reading on-line in some areas that Korean Immigration is being less lenient, but I could be wrong. I am considering halting my attempt to return to Korea and go elsewhere if that is the case. I don't mind going back, but it does take a lot of time and money to go through all that paperwork. Do you know what I mean? Many things change in Korea, Nathan. My record is still the same except it's an older part of my life.
I was hoping someone heard something.... |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
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| What kind of question is this/answer are you looking for? You had an E2 WITH a mark on the record, so why would it be a problem this time? Has something else changed in this situation or what? |
Nathan, Korean Immigration is kind of arbitrary. Yes, I did get a visa back in 2008. However, I am reading on-line in some areas that Korean Immigration is being less lenient, but I could be wrong. I am considering halting my attempt to return to Korea and go elsewhere if that is the case. I don't mind going back, but it does take a lot of time and money to go through all that paperwork. Do you know what I mean? Many things change in Korea, Nathan. My record is still the same except it's an older part of my life.
I was hoping someone heard something.... |
Okay, makes sense.
I've always been under the impression that they never let anyone in with any mark. That's what everyone says on here, that's what everyone's "friend" had a problem with, etc...
The only thing you can do is try. Call. Ask. That's the only thing I'd suggest.  Good luck! |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| I know someone else with a DUI who came in 2009, so no, you're not alone. He's Canadian (so was working with a national CBC) and was just able to renew, if that's any encouragement. As much as people say you can't get in with anything, people do get through, you're just subject to the arbitrariness of the system. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
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SoylaMBPolymath
Joined: 21 Jan 2011
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2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
As someone who was born and raised in Texas I can say with confidence that there are a plethora of good reasons not to live in Texas. Ahem. Exceedingly nauseating braggadocio being one which immediately comes to mind.
As to the OP's concern, I agree with the poster who said you won't know unless you try. It may work in your favor that you had a visa before, it may not. I can't say this unequivocally, but it appears that the persistent dismal economic conditions have created a veritable slew of applicants for English teaching positions, thus providing Korean immigration with the opportunity to be more selective (some prefer to read selective as arbitrary) so that ANY type of mar on one's CBC will doom your chances. I have read stories about recruiters placing people with Class B Misdemeanors (which is what I believe a DUI/DWI is in Texas), but there are no guarantees.
In any event, best of luck to you! |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| SoylaMBPolymath wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
As someone who was born and raised in Texas I can say with confidence that there are a plethora of good reasons not to live in Texas. Ahem. Exceedingly nauseating braggadocio being one which immediately comes to mind.
As to the OP's concern, I agree with the poster who said you won't know unless you try. It may work in your favor that you had a visa before, it may not. I can't say this unequivocally, but it appears that the persistent dismal economic conditions have created a veritable slew of applicants for English teaching positions, thus providing Korean immigration with the opportunity to be more selective (some prefer to read selective as arbitrary) so that ANY type of mar on one's CBC will doom your chances. I have read stories about recruiters placing people with Class B Misdemeanors (which is what I believe a DUI/DWI is in Texas), but there are no guarantees.
In any event, best of luck to you! |
As far as Texas, I received this after leaving Montreal to work in Texas in the schools. I hardly ever touched or drink in Montreal, and would hop on a subway or cab. There is no such thing in Texas. I think most of it was
feeling really out of sorts in terms of feeling the Montreal social scene was friendlier environment. I think the main thing was that the teaching scene there was absolutely crazy, IMHO. Anyway, it was my mistake 9 years ago. I like Austin when it comes to Texas, the restaurants, some of the new cultural stuff that has emerged in the past 10 years, but I would prefer NYC because at least they have public transport, cabs everywhere.
In other states, you can expunge a very old DUI or seal it. If you have a 30 year old DUI, it's still on there if it's from Texas. I am also a Canadian besides an American. I know if Americans get a DUI it shows up in a Canadian database, but if you did an RCMP check would it show an offense from the US? That, I wonder. I am checking into that option for later. I got a visa in 2008 in Korea. The immigration official accepted a one time DUI from years back. I only heard that they are doing less of that.
I don't want to put a school in a bad spot if I can't come because of it.
I would not want some school to pay for an old mistake of mine. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| **** Texas! |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| for that matter **** Maine as well. |
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SoylaMBPolymath
Joined: 21 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| SoylaMBPolymath wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
As someone who was born and raised in Texas I can say with confidence that there are a plethora of good reasons not to live in Texas. Ahem. Exceedingly nauseating braggadocio being one which immediately comes to mind.
As to the OP's concern, I agree with the poster who said you won't know unless you try. It may work in your favor that you had a visa before, it may not. I can't say this unequivocally, but it appears that the persistent dismal economic conditions have created a veritable slew of applicants for English teaching positions, thus providing Korean immigration with the opportunity to be more selective (some prefer to read selective as arbitrary) so that ANY type of mar on one's CBC will doom your chances. I have read stories about recruiters placing people with Class B Misdemeanors (which is what I believe a DUI/DWI is in Texas), but there are no guarantees.
In any event, best of luck to you! |
As far as Texas, I received this after leaving Montreal to work in Texas in the schools. I hardly ever touched or drink in Montreal, and would hop on a subway or cab. There is no such thing in Texas. I think most of it was
feeling really out of sorts in terms of feeling the Montreal social scene was friendlier environment. I think the main thing was that the teaching scene there was absolutely crazy, IMHO. Anyway, it was my mistake 9 years ago. I like Austin when it comes to Texas, the restaurants, some of the new cultural stuff that has emerged in the past 10 years, but I would prefer NYC because at least they have public transport, cabs everywhere.
In other states, you can expunge a very old DUI or seal it. If you have a 30 year old DUI, it's still on there if it's from Texas. I am also a Canadian besides an American. I know if Americans get a DUI it shows up in a Canadian database, but if you did an RCMP check would it show an offense from the US? That, I wonder. I am checking into that option for later. I got a visa in 2008 in Korea. The immigration official accepted a one time DUI from years back. I only heard that they are doing less of that.
I don't want to put a school in a bad spot if I can't come because of it.
I would not want some school to pay for an old mistake of mine. |
I am actually from Austin and have lived there practically my whole life. It can get boring. And it talks itself up more than Texans do. (We're so "weird!" Not really. "Hey, look at us, we're better than the rest of Texas!" No, not really.) That gets really old. And I agree that the lack of public transportation in Texas is the pits. People in Texas are wedded to their vehicles. It's a shame, really.
As for that DUI, I think that even if you could get it expunged it will still show up on your FBI CBC. (You have to get one from the FBI, right?) Anything Class B or higher will get reported up by Texas's DPS database, but I believe that even after an expungement the misdemeanor will show up on the CBC as "expunged" but still on the CBC. I looked all of this stuff up before I applied to come to Korea because I had an old PI which I was sure would show up on my record and keep me from coming to Korea. It was not on my CBC and here I am!
I really do hope it works out for you. You seem like a considerate individual, insofar as you're actually thinking of the school's side of things. That seems pretty rare. Do you have any networking connections left in Korea from your previous go? Maybe you can hook-up with that school and see if they'll go to bat for you as far as immigration is concerned. Not that that's any guarantee. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| SoylaMBPolymath wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
As someone who was born and raised in Texas I can say with confidence that there are a plethora of good reasons not to live in Texas. Ahem. Exceedingly nauseating braggadocio being one which immediately comes to mind.
As to the OP's concern, I agree with the poster who said you won't know unless you try. It may work in your favor that you had a visa before, it may not. I can't say this unequivocally, but it appears that the persistent dismal economic conditions have created a veritable slew of applicants for English teaching positions, thus providing Korean immigration with the opportunity to be more selective (some prefer to read selective as arbitrary) so that ANY type of mar on one's CBC will doom your chances. I have read stories about recruiters placing people with Class B Misdemeanors (which is what I believe a DUI/DWI is in Texas), but there are no guarantees.
In any event, best of luck to you! |
As far as Texas, I received this after leaving Montreal to work in Texas in the schools. I hardly ever touched or drink in Montreal, and would hop on a subway or cab. There is no such thing in Texas. I think most of it was
feeling really out of sorts in terms of feeling the Montreal social scene was friendlier environment. I think the main thing was that the teaching scene there was absolutely crazy, IMHO. Anyway, it was my mistake 9 years ago. I like Austin when it comes to Texas, the restaurants, some of the new cultural stuff that has emerged in the past 10 years, but I would prefer NYC because at least they have public transport, cabs everywhere.
In other states, you can expunge a very old DUI or seal it. If you have a 30 year old DUI, it's still on there if it's from Texas. I am also a Canadian besides an American. I know if Americans get a DUI it shows up in a Canadian database, but if you did an RCMP check would it show an offense from the US? That, I wonder. I am checking into that option for later. I got a visa in 2008 in Korea. The immigration official accepted a one time DUI from years back. I only heard that they are doing less of that.
I don't want to put a school in a bad spot if I can't come because of it.
I would not want some school to pay for an old mistake of mine. |
Move to Canada for several months. Delete America from your resume. Say you went home from Korea and lived in your mom's basement and worked odd jobbs for uncle Ralph. Problem solved. Wished they were all so easy. You're lucky to hve duel citizenship. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| SoylaMBPolymath wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
2002? Don't states have to expunge after 7 years, as long as you don't do anything after the offense you want expunged?
If not, that's a good reason not to live in Texas. |
As someone who was born and raised in Texas I can say with confidence that there are a plethora of good reasons not to live in Texas. Ahem. Exceedingly nauseating braggadocio being one which immediately comes to mind.
As to the OP's concern, I agree with the poster who said you won't know unless you try. It may work in your favor that you had a visa before, it may not. I can't say this unequivocally, but it appears that the persistent dismal economic conditions have created a veritable slew of applicants for English teaching positions, thus providing Korean immigration with the opportunity to be more selective (some prefer to read selective as arbitrary) so that ANY type of mar on one's CBC will doom your chances. I have read stories about recruiters placing people with Class B Misdemeanors (which is what I believe a DUI/DWI is in Texas), but there are no guarantees.
In any event, best of luck to you! |
As far as Texas, I received this after leaving Montreal to work in Texas in the schools. I hardly ever touched or drink in Montreal, and would hop on a subway or cab. There is no such thing in Texas. I think most of it was
feeling really out of sorts in terms of feeling the Montreal social scene was friendlier environment. I think the main thing was that the teaching scene there was absolutely crazy, IMHO. Anyway, it was my mistake 9 years ago. I like Austin when it comes to Texas, the restaurants, some of the new cultural stuff that has emerged in the past 10 years, but I would prefer NYC because at least they have public transport, cabs everywhere.
In other states, you can expunge a very old DUI or seal it. If you have a 30 year old DUI, it's still on there if it's from Texas. I am also a Canadian besides an American. I know if Americans get a DUI it shows up in a Canadian database, but if you did an RCMP check would it show an offense from the US? That, I wonder. I am checking into that option for later. I got a visa in 2008 in Korea. The immigration official accepted a one time DUI from years back. I only heard that they are doing less of that.
I don't want to put a school in a bad spot if I can't come because of it.
I would not want some school to pay for an old mistake of mine. |
Move to Canada for several months. Delete America from your resume. Say you went home from Korea and lived in your mom's basement and worked odd jobbs for uncle Ralph. Problem solved. Wished they were all so easy. You're lucky to hve duel citizenship. |
Yes, I would have to go on the Canuck one and do as you said. I would also have to not mention that I ever worked in the Land of the Morning Calm. I want to return to the land of hockey anyway. I sure miss it. I'd consider coming back to Korea, but it depends. It's not that simple when you just move back to Canada and start something and then pick up again. We'll see....It's good to have dual, yes. |
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