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rambler
Joined: 18 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: Politically speaking, how does this board lean? |
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I like to poke and prod folks of all political persuasions about silliness they post.
Are you an (r) or a (d)? Liberal or conservative?
In my experience, even the most extreme members of either wing think they are moderates 
I'm a political moderate, btw.  |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| The 'Let's Vote' thread suggests a 50/50 split between liberals and libertarians. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Libertarianism is the vocal majority here. |
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Fat_Elvis
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: In the ghetto
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got to agree with Kuros on this one, that libertarians of various shades seem to be in the majority. Why is that, I wonder? It seems libertarians are over- represented on the Internet as a whole, not just here. |
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toadkillerdog
Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Daejeon. ROK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaiotic Neutral |
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sallymonster
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:05 am Post subject: |
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In the state of Washington, I'm a registered Democrat. I registered so I could participate in the 2008 presidential caucus, and they required party affiliation. By the time the primaries/caucuses got to WA, McCain was pretty much a shoo-in for the Republican nomination, so I voted on the Democrat side.
In the state of Oregon, I'm "unaffiliated" with any political party, because I never had to declare a party in order to vote.
Personally, I think that politicians of both parties are just pawns of corporations and special interests and don't really work for the people very much. I usually vote Democrat because I see them as the lesser of the two evils. And I worry that a vote for a Republican is a vote for the religious right to take over the US. I don't want the government making choices for me about whether or not I can have consensual sex, use birth control, or be gay.
And btw, neither party is truly fiscally conservative, they just spend on different things (different special interests, usually). |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| toadkillerdog wrote: |
| Chaiotic Neutral |
Might be the most true statement of all.
Though there is a heavy Lawful Neutral vibe on this board as well. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| I've got to agree with Kuros on this one, that libertarians of various shades seem to be in the majority. Why is that, I wonder? It seems libertarians are over- represented on the Internet as a whole, not just here. |
Because brainwashed zombies who get their entire worldview spoon fed to them by the establishment media and government (like yourself) are not the majority they fancy themselves to be. More and more people are waking up to the lies. Truth is becoming mainstream again; but you won't find it on MSNBC, CNN, or FOX news.
It's funny though to see liberal types still clinging to the notion that they are more enlightened than the rest of us and represent the "level headed" views of politics. They'll probably still be doing that when libertarians are in the actual majority. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| I've got to agree with Kuros on this one, that libertarians of various shades seem to be in the majority. Why is that, I wonder? It seems libertarians are over- represented on the Internet as a whole, not just here. |
My tongue is very sore from biting it. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| I've got to agree with Kuros on this one, that libertarians of various shades seem to be in the majority. Why is that, I wonder? It seems libertarians are over- represented on the Internet as a whole, not just here. |
Because brainwashed zombies who get their entire worldview spoon fed to them by the establishment media and government (like yourself) are not the majority they fancy themselves to be. More and more people are waking up to the lies. Truth is becoming mainstream again; but you won't find it on MSNBC, CNN, or FOX news.
It's funny though to see liberal types still clinging to the notion that they are more enlightened than the rest of us and represent the "level headed" views of politics. They'll probably still be doing that when libertarians are in the actual majority. |
Yes, and Ron Paul would be our next president if it weren't for nefarious corporations standing in his way.  |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| visitorq wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| I've got to agree with Kuros on this one, that libertarians of various shades seem to be in the majority. Why is that, I wonder? It seems libertarians are over- represented on the Internet as a whole, not just here. |
Because brainwashed zombies who get their entire worldview spoon fed to them by the establishment media and government (like yourself) are not the majority they fancy themselves to be. More and more people are waking up to the lies. Truth is becoming mainstream again; but you won't find it on MSNBC, CNN, or FOX news.
It's funny though to see liberal types still clinging to the notion that they are more enlightened than the rest of us and represent the "level headed" views of politics. They'll probably still be doing that when libertarians are in the actual majority. |
Yes, and Ron Paul would be our next president if it weren't for nefarious corporations standing in his way. |
Are you one of those people who blames problems caused by corporatism (aka 'fascism', ie. the merger between state and corporate power) on the free market? Are you trying to say it's ironic that Ron Paul - a defender of free market capitalism and liberty - has been marginalized by the powers that be within our state-imposed crony capitalist system? If so, I would suggest you figure out the difference. |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not libertarian at all. Locke and Hobbes wrote about how people leave a state of nature and form a civilized society. Libertarianism is the reversal of that process. It is a backwards, head-up-the-a** political philosophy. The US experienced steady economic growth from 1940-1980. Then fans of Ayn Rand like Greenspan popularized the idea that deregulation was good for the economy. And look where that brought the US- to the brink of economic collapse. Wall Street took advantage of all its new freedom to come up with more and more complex financial products that made it easier to scam the average person with limited financial knowledge. The libertarian theory that fraud is self correcting (because people who commit fraud will lose customers) and that government interference is never necessary turned out not to be true. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Are you one of those people who blames problems caused by corporatism (aka 'fascism', ie. the merger between state and corporate power) on the free market? Are you trying to say it's ironic that Ron Paul - a defender of free market capitalism and liberty - has been marginalized by the powers that be within our state-imposed crony capitalist system? If so, I would suggest you figure out the difference. |
Sorry, your post is incomprehensible: what difference am I supposed to figure out? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ghostrider wrote: |
| The libertarian theory that fraud is self correcting (because people who commit fraud will lose customers) and that government interference is never necessary turned out not to be true. |
Strawmen for statism. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| visitorq wrote: |
| Are you one of those people who blames problems caused by corporatism (aka 'fascism', ie. the merger between state and corporate power) on the free market? Are you trying to say it's ironic that Ron Paul - a defender of free market capitalism and liberty - has been marginalized by the powers that be within our state-imposed crony capitalist system? If so, I would suggest you figure out the difference. |
Sorry, your post is incomprehensible: what difference am I supposed to figure out? |
The difference between real, free market capitalism (espoused by libertarians and Ron Paul) and state-regulated crony corporatist capitalism (espoused by statists and both socialists and neo-Cons alike). My point was that even though Ron Paul is generally anti big government there is nothing ironic about the major corporations (incl. the mainstream corporate media) being opposed to what he stands for.
Also, I was assuming your original post about Ron Paul was meant to be sarcastic. If I misunderstood there, then sorry... |
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