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mdsb87



Joined: 16 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:06 pm    Post subject: Mongolia as a travel destination Reply with quote

My girlfriend and I are wondering where to travel to during time off in August (10 days).

We would love to go to Vietnam but have been told that the heat could ruin the trip and that it may be better to leave Cambodia and Vietnam til Winter when it's a little cooler.

What is Mongolia like? know little more than a quick look at wikitravel. Anyone been there? Is there much to do ?


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n�fara



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all the places I have travelled, I have loved Mongolia the most.
Go there, spend as little time as you can in Ulan Baator but go out and see the land and the people.

Even if you only have 10 days, that's enough for you to find a few people and hire a van and driver and head out into some place like the Gobi. There are heaps of guesthouses in the capital that can help you.
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alwaysbeclosing100



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:10 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

the weather is decent in indonesia and sri lanka
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mdsb87



Joined: 16 Aug 2010
Location: Gyeongsangnam do

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

n�fara wrote:
Of all the places I have travelled, I have loved Mongolia the most.
Go there, spend as little time as you can in Ulan Baator but go out and see the land and the people.

Even if you only have 10 days, that's enough for you to find a few people and hire a van and driver and head out into some place like the Gobi. There are heaps of guesthouses in the capital that can help you.


It does sound amazing. We are interested in it mostly because it isn't the most normal place to go. Is it a cheap place to visit compared with Korea? Will your Korean Won go far there?

Also is it difficult to get a tourist visa etc?

Does one have to be a good/experienced hiker to enjoy it ?
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samd



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what nifara said. UB is a miserable place, so just use it as a jumping off point to see the rest of the country.

I was there in September, and we used a travel agency located across the road (not the main road, but the street that runs along the side of it, near the supermarket) from the side of the State Department Store. They organised tours for us where you get a jeep/van and a driver and guide and they will help you do a tour that's right for you - it's very flexible. Then you can get out into the countryside and visit different national parks, stay in a ger, meet some nomads etc. which is a great experience.

In response to your other questions:

- It's cheap compared to Korea, but it's much less developed, so be prepared for no hot water in your hotel, and the worst food you've ever had. You can make your won go far, yes. Or you can spend it all at once. It's up to you really.

- It's not difficult to get a tourist visa. Americans get in free, no visa required, just show up at the airport.

- You don't need to be an experienced hiker.
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richinlondon



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongolia is amazing, when your in the countryside, its pure serenity, pure wilderness.

Probably 25% cheaper than Korea. You can get a visa from a Korean tourist company for around 40,000 won, send your passport recorded mail and they send it back same way.

I got a bus out of Ulaanbaatar, 10 hours, on a DIY mission. I rented a horse with another backpacker and a guide when we got to some random place. Done three days horseback, from ger to ger, it was a little rough, as in we had to carry all the food we'd need, but well worth it.

Three days was US$50 for guide and horses each. Some other guys we met had done it even cheaper. The tours are good value as well, down to the Gobi etc but just choose company carefully, make sure you know what your getting for what you pay.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Mongolia as a travel destination Reply with quote

mdsb87 wrote:
My girlfriend and I are wondering where to travel to during time off in August (10 days).

We would love to go to Vietnam but have been told that the heat could ruin the trip and that it may be better to leave Cambodia and Vietnam til Winter when it's a little cooler.

What is Mongolia like? know little more than a quick look at wikitravel. Anyone been there? Is there much to do ?


Thanks

Amazing place. Try to get out of UlaanBaatar as quick as possible. Not that it's bad, it's just that the countryside of Mongolia is absolutely incredible.

Tons of companies take people out into 'the outback' of no roads or anything but horses and yurts for as far as the eye can see. Feels like 1800s America or something. No pavements or cities, just horses and yurts. Plus beautiful mountains and sceneries.

Something that needs to be seen to be believed.
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McGenghis



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

n�fara wrote:
Of all the places I have travelled, I have loved Mongolia the most.
Go there, spend as little time as you can in Ulan Baator but go out and see the land and the people.

Even if you only have 10 days, that's enough for you to find a few people and hire a van and driver and head out into some place like the Gobi. There are heaps of guesthouses in the capital that can help you.


This is encouraging. I have often dreamt of just heading off into the vast spaces of that country but when I mention it to people they tell me to go SE Asia.

Granted, it IS nice down there but I loves me some big open spaces and meeting a handful of people a day means I will remember them better.
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mdsb87



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info folks.

Is it better to book your tours before you arrive or wait til you get to the capital and try to get them kinda custom made. We would love to do say 3 days horse riding and 3 days Jeep touring if ya get my drift. . . .
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mdsb87



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdsb87 wrote:
Thanks for the info folks.

Is it better to book your tours before you arrive or wait til you get to the capital and try to get them kinda custom made. We would love to do say 3 days horse riding and 3 days Jeep touring if ya get my drift. . . .


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n�fara



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan to book a tour through the guesthouses there (which many people do and the guesthouses have a lot of experience) you could let them know what you'd like to do in advance so perhaps they'll be able to find some other people to travel with you on the same tour to spread the costs around and make it cheaper.

There are some tour agencies that are not associated with the guest houses, and some of them are very good (but more expensive, of course). Some are located in UB, others in the towns outside of the capital.

I would advise you to not pay for anything before you get there, and go with either an established tour agency with a good reputation or through a guesthouse. Two guesthouses I've had good experiences with are:

UB Guesthouse - www.ubguest.com
Golden Gobi - www.goldengobi.com

Keep in mind that the guesthouses do like to get people booked on tours that they run regularly (as it's easier for them) so they promote certain tours even when you told them you might like to do something different. However, they can still help you if you have your own plan on what you'd like to see. Going with a guesthouse is also good in that they have established relationships with all the drivers and whatnot, so they are more reliable.

We hired a guesthouse van, driver, and a "guide". It was nice having our guide/interpreter, he was pretty fun even if not the most experienced in the area we went to. Our driver was awesome but didn't speak much English so it allowed us to talk with him more and get a better feel for the places that we went to. Hiring a guide is not expensive at all and it gives your driver some company.

Some people are more inclined to DIY tours, which is awesome if you're up for it and you have some idea of what you'd like to do. Outside of UB, I've found that people are very open and not pushy when it comes to dealing with tourists so you can set things up in the towns in the countryside as well.

Do a bit of research on where or what you'd like to do and what tour companies offer, and then email a tour company or guesthouse and see what they say.

Any thought to places you'd like to see in Mongolia?
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n�fara



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Mongolia as a travel destination Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:

Amazing place. Try to get out of UlaanBaatar as quick as possible. Not that it's bad, it's just that the countryside of Mongolia is absolutely incredible.


I second this. There are some nice places in Ulaan Baatar but it's nothing special in comparison to what you'll see outside the city. In UB there are pickpockets and things are a bit more shady, be careful when you go out and about. We had no problems there ourselves so I think you just have to be vigilant.

In the summertime I think the power plant in UB only runs once every three days or so. Electricity is not problem, but I think the city only gets hot water when the power plant is running.

The food is not too bad in Mongolia (in the city there is some variety, even vegetarian!) but if you go out on the land I hope you like mutton. And rice/noodles. Make sure you bring some veggies with you when you leave UB.

The owner of the UB Guesthouse is Korean and he took Won when we paid for things there.

You don't have to be an experienced hiker to enjoy Mongolia, but if you do treks on foot keep in mind that Mongolia is at a higher elevation than you might be used to.
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tukmax



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read this book last year and become interested in Ghengis Khan and the history of the Mongolian people.

http://www.amazon.com/Genghis-Khan-Making-Modern-World/dp/0609610627

I would like to see some of the main sites mentioned in the book. I forget their names now but it was where they think Ghengis Khan was born and that mountain that was shut off by the Soviets during the cold war.

How much do the tours through those two guest houses cost? I'm thinking of going in July during the summer festivals. I've heard the weather is nice then as well.
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n�fara



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tukmax wrote:
I read this book last year and become interested in Ghengis Khan and the history of the Mongolian people.


Interestingly enough, it's not "Ghengis" in Mongolia, but rather he is called Chinggis Khan.

tukmax wrote:

How much do the tours through those two guest houses cost? I'm thinking of going in July during the summer festivals. I've heard the weather is nice then as well.


The tours depend on how many people you have going with you on the tour (the more the people, the cheaper it is as the cost of fuel and whatnot is spread out). Also depends on how long you're going out to, and to where.
I realize this is not the most helpful of answers, but a good way to get an idea of how much your ideal trip might cost is to get quotes from different guesthouses and companies, and ask what the cost is for 1 person or 6 people, etc. and compare.


If you plan to go to Mongolia during Naadam, it will be very busy as that's when a lot of other people go, too. I've heard it's also the peak period for thefts and muggings of travelers. So, it will be an interesting and exciting time just be more careful if you go then. Also, book places to stay well in advance during this period.
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongolia is the most wickedest place in Asia - hands down !

I might show up there this summer as I have 4 weeks vacation time Very Happy

Kim is the owner of UB Guesthouse and his Mongolian wife and very cute child you may see. He is very cool and I was happy to be invited there for two weeks.

Tours can be a little pricey. In 2009, Gobi tour was about 150-300 USD depending on how many days. I didn't go but people showed me pictures - ok I guess.

UB has some attractions, next time I go, I will stay at a $30/day hotel to myself with shower and tv.

+ If you like meat and dumplings, then Mongolia is heaven. I love the food.
+ The women are knockouts! I have not seen such exotic Asian beauty.
+ The name is pronounced Chinggis Ha
+ If you look chinese, please be careful, hate is strong for them. I had conversations even with the meekest, cutest gal...propagandized to hate all chinese Sad I've seen Neo Nazi Mongolians in UB !!
+ Countryside and horse riding is a MUST in Mongolia, you can see Kharkorin (Karakorum) and other of the Khans exploits.

I love the country, people and history. Fell in love the first time.
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