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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: What's Busan really like? Not very international? |
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See, I always thought it was. But if you strip away Haeundae and Gwangalli, I wondered if it's just another Korean city. I don't know it very well at all. Only been there twice and mostly around Haeundae with a brief touring of a couple of other spots. I'm going to go there in a couple of weeks and I really want to explore the place. Seoul, I know quite well. But not as many restaurants. No subway. Did a search for Subway restaurants and not a one. Surprising. Seoul has so many of them and other restaurants on every corner. Homemade hamburger places there, but Busan? Mexican food? Indian food? Foriegn markets there, like Namdaemun in Seoul? What are the hot spots in the city besides Haeundae? |
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robinsoncrusoe
Joined: 22 Jan 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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so a city doesn't qualify as "international" to you unless it has a Subways? |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I used to like wandering around Guk-jae market, just up from Ja-gal-chi subway stop. It's not like Seoul, but it's where I could find lots of imported stuff. Also, I liked Nampo-dong.
As far as international goes, I suppose there's always Texas Street. I used to enjoy going to a certain Russian restaurant, the borscht was excellent.
Hope this helps. |
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Mpark
Joined: 08 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think Busan is one of those great to live in but shite to visit sort of places. The nightlife is good but I imagine not a patch on Seoul's which I've only experienced a handful of times. I enjoy living here but I couldn't recommend anyone to visit for more than a day or two. There're the 5 beaches, the Nampo area is pretty cool and some walking around the end of Yeonghdo Island but after that nothing really stands out that you wouldn't get in Seoul. I just enjoy the less crowded way of life! |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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EVERYONE should read and memorize this. Seoul is EVERYTHING in Korea.
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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robinsoncrusoe wrote: |
so a city doesn't qualify as "international" to you unless it has a Subways? |
Well Seoul has many; Busan has none. I googled only 2 Quiznos. Asking what other restaurants there are. Indian food, Mexican food? I really don't know it well. Gukje - can you get foriegn foods like the underground markets in Seoul? I'm going to go there and explore the place. Just wanted to get a heads up on the place. Asides from Haeundae, a coastal tour I was taken on, and brief trip to China town I don't know the place. That's why I want to explore it more. But I usually go to Seoul when I want to go to a big city. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Not Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Weigookin74 wrote: |
robinsoncrusoe wrote: |
so a city doesn't qualify as "international" to you unless it has a Subways? |
Well Seoul has many; Busan has none. I googled only 2 Quiznos. Asking what other restaurants there are. Indian food, Mexican food? I really don't know it well. Gukje - can you get foriegn foods like the underground markets in Seoul? I'm going to go there and explore the place. Just wanted to get a heads up on the place. Asides from Haeundae, a coastal tour I was taken on, and brief trip to China town I don't know the place. That's why I want to explore it more. But I usually go to Seoul when I want to go to a big city. |
There isn't one in Somyeon? Anyway, there was at least 1 Subway restaurant in Daegu. |
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yellowdove
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Cohiba's Rule is horrible. It's pointless and has been around for far too long. It is simply not the case anymore. I'm not going to reply anymore to this thread, because I feel it's not worth my time and energy to fight anyone. I'm saying that no matter where you live, you'll have a good time in Korea if you truly want it.
And FDNY, stop posting that nonsense!!!!
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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all the subways closed in busan. the last Subway in Daegu closed in April (in front of GyoDae). not enough business.
the local dont like to pay that much for food that they cant bond over and is unfamilairt to them.
and that Cohiba's rule is stupid as hell. maybe in 1995, but not in 2011. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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1- Cohiba's rule is very narrow and only applicable to someone who cannot see anything beyond Seoul.
2- Cohiba's rule does not take into account the different preferences of different people
3- Cohiba either never ventured outside of Seoul or was blindfolded when he did.
Now, as for Busan, it has some international flavor to it but not as much as Seoul. Then it becomes about what you need and crave.
Busan has a some pretty decent food courts that offer some varied western and international menus (ex: Shinseagea department store in Centum City has heaps of good international dishes).
Haeundae has a decent Indian restaurant as well.
There are some half decent Italian places scattered across Busan too.
Now either you live by that retarded Cohiba's rule or you actually form an opinion of your own.... |
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marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: where pretty lies perish
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:15 am Post subject: |
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FDNY wrote: |
EVERYONE should read and memorize this. Seoul is EVERYTHING in Korea.
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains. |
I made a push to settle for only Seoul when I came here. Haven't looked back since. All of my friends from outside of Seoul visit me in SEOUL, not the other way around.
Any other questions?
lol |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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After several visits, my impression of Busan is pretty consistent.
The people are even more brash and rude.
The stares are worse.
The level of previous exposure to foreigners is real low.
The giggling middle-school mentality to foreigners is on steroids.
..imagine Seoul 15 years ago... and you have Busan. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:25 am Post subject: |
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FDNY wrote: |
EVERYONE should read and memorize this. Seoul is EVERYTHING in Korea.
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains. |
i'm not trying to say anything new here, but i always thought this rule was an epic generalisation, and pretty patronising to foreigners. i mean, you really need a quizno's in your city for it to be "fun"? a cuban cigar and a public speaking club? really?
my city has none of those things, but i and the rest of the community here live a fantastic life. i wouldn't want to live anywhere else, to be honest.
the fact that i rub shoulders with like-minded foreigners who lament not the lack of a taco bell here helps a whole bunch, too. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Haeundae has a decent Indian restaurant as well. |
oh, god you're right. |
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