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Chet Wautlands

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Juregen
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ha yes lets post a link without offering an opinion.
How intelligent you are. |
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Zach with a Z
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Juregen wrote: |
Ha yes lets post a link without offering an opinion.
How intelligent you are. |
cool guy |
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SMOE NSET
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have a feeling they will give all of the students Samsung (you know it will be Samsung) tablets/e-readers and a week later drop the idea as nearly half of them are stolen or broken. They destroy stuff here without remorse! Well in Elementary school at least.
I always thought eBooks would be better especially for university. Some of my books were over $150 each. That is an eBook reader right there on just one book. However, I am sure the textbook publishers hired lobbyist and have a part in why the schools in the US haven't implemented them yet. Their profit margin would drop significantly unless they keep the book prices high.
Imagine having an up to date textbook? My high school was brand new when I entered it so all of the textbooks were new and up-to-date but I have heard stories of schools using 5-10 year old textbooks. Obviously, not all of the subjects need that perk but imagine if a theory in science is debunked and the book could be changed with a simple "update".
Of course the saving of trees doesn't hurt either! |
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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I think it's obviously the future... but 2015 surprised me. Four years from now there won't be paper textbooks in South Korea? That's pretty crazy. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Chet Wautlands wrote: |
I think it's obviously the future... but 2015 surprised me. Four years from now there won't be paper textbooks in South Korea? That's pretty crazy. |
Technically it is already possible.
Practically or cost wise, is another thing.
The government, I believe, hasn't thought through the whole process just yet.
Kids and technology don't last long together.
Then there is content management and creation.
I am sure we can all think of many more issues concerning this topic. |
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RobertGR
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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SMOE NSET wrote: |
I have a feeling they will give all of the students Samsung (you know it will be Samsung) tablets/e-readers and a week later drop the idea as nearly half of them are stolen or broken. They destroy stuff here without remorse! Well in Elementary school at least.
I always thought eBooks would be better especially for university. Some of my books were over $150 each. That is an eBook reader right there on just one book. However, I am sure the textbook publishers hired lobbyist and have a part in why the schools in the US haven't implemented them yet. Their profit margin would drop significantly unless they keep the book prices high.
Imagine having an up to date textbook? My high school was brand new when I entered it so all of the textbooks were new and up-to-date but I have heard stories of schools using 5-10 year old textbooks. Obviously, not all of the subjects need that perk but imagine if a theory in science is debunked and the book could be changed with a simple "update".
Of course the saving of trees doesn't hurt either! |
What makes you think the e-book will be significantly cheaper? for many of the ones I've seen the time limited e-book version was at least as expensive as a used paper copy. |
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danwom
Joined: 31 May 2011
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I was required to buy a few e-textbooks by certain professors at my university. The professor told us it would save us money anyways... A used copy cost $60 and the e-book was $37.
I don't really see how elementary school students could ever be responsible enough to carry around tablets... maybe high school students at the very least.
Buy a kid an iPhone4 and it will get stolen in a week. |
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RobertGR
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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danwom wrote: |
I was required to buy a few e-textbooks by certain professors at my university. The professor told us it would save us money anyways... A used copy cost $60 and the e-book was $37.
I don't really see how elementary school students could ever be responsible enough to carry around tablets... maybe high school students at the very least.
Buy a kid an iPhone4 and it will get stolen in a week. |
The used copy can be resold (or kept if you want). E-books generally cannot be. |
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Speedling
Joined: 08 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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RobertGR wrote: |
danwom wrote: |
I was required to buy a few e-textbooks by certain professors at my university. The professor told us it would save us money anyways... A used copy cost $60 and the e-book was $37.
I don't really see how elementary school students could ever be responsible enough to carry around tablets... maybe high school students at the very least.
Buy a kid an iPhone4 and it will get stolen in a week. |
The used copy can be resold (or kept if you want). E-books generally cannot be. |
But, you usually sell second hand texts for 50% the original cost right? and if your only paying 60% for the e-book, plus the added convenience of not having to carry heavy books, its really not such a bad deal. |
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danwom
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Speedling wrote: |
RobertGR wrote: |
danwom wrote: |
I was required to buy a few e-textbooks by certain professors at my university. The professor told us it would save us money anyways... A used copy cost $60 and the e-book was $37.
I don't really see how elementary school students could ever be responsible enough to carry around tablets... maybe high school students at the very least.
Buy a kid an iPhone4 and it will get stolen in a week. |
The used copy can be resold (or kept if you want). E-books generally cannot be. |
But, you usually sell second hand texts for 50% the original cost right? and if your only paying 60% for the e-book, plus the added convenience of not having to carry heavy books, its really not such a bad deal. |
In my experience, the biggest advantage of an e-book was being able to CTRL+F and read the appropriate sections instantly. This was immensely helpful for completing assignments. |
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Gorf
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Not gonna happen. The breakability factor aside, they're expensive and impractical, and as stated earlier, kids aren't smart enough to use them effectively. You'll be left with a bunch of little kids who forgot to charge their e-book readers so they can't participate. |
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PastorYoon

Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Location: Sea of Japan
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: Re: In South Korea, all textbooks will be e-books by 2015 |
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In my last school, the Korean owner of the school bought one American textbook for each subject, then had each one copied for each kid in black & white soft-cover format. Such BS. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I will believe when I see it. This sounds like on the classic pie in the sky political promises.
Saying it will not mean it comes true.
Also the government will stamp out smoking in public places including PC bangs and bars by 2015. The American military will finally move out of Yongsan by 2015. The four rivers project will be complete. Let us not forget that by 2015 the last PC with Microsoft XP will finally shut down. In 2015, they will finally decide to join the rest of the world in using https and ssl technology. Of course by then the rest of the world has likely moved in to something more secure. In some ways Korea is so modern but in others they are so backward. Or they drag their feet and whine till people either forget about it or they do get something done..
YaYa the technology is there and yes the price is nice but this is government we are talking about. Put in the word Korea in front of the word government it becomes more of a joke. Add in that it will likely be done ALL by Korean companies who only got the contract by making sure that right government official got a blow job and drunk on expensive whiskey at a hostess bar and a cut of the future action. Good Korean companies will not be doing the work. If you are thing Kindles/Nooks in every backpack. No - it will be badly designed made on the cheap Korean (made in China) crap. The software will likely either be so badly designed I would not be surprised it a rise in epileptic seizures in the future. It will likely not be PDf format too it will likely be some weird ass proprietary format (that is a bad rip of something else). When something does finally get rolled out only select schools will get it first. Congratulations Gangnam Elementary school you get some new ones. Sorry small little village you are not important enough but here is a old PC that can sort of run XP.
Come on people only recently I saw some news about money and scandal on good old normal school books. Also time and time and time and every year there is some article or stink about something wrong with text books either too hard, too political, stupid mistakes, bad information, out of date information, racism, and so and so on.
I do not see the change by 2015. |
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mellow-d
Joined: 07 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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How about toilet paper in the school bathrooms first?!
Seriously, about 25% of my grade one students (middle school) have already lost their textbooks and they're only half way through the year. I'm a lucky lady if half of them even remember their pencils/pens when they come to class.
Tablets=waste of $$$$ |
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