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MaestroCantus
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questions. |
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I've lived in Korea for over 3 years (Since July 2008), and since my school decided to not keep me another year, I'm returning to Canada a year earlier than I had planned. (I was going to stay 3 or 4 years, but it seems like 3 years is working out better).
However, my question is that when I read the B4 form, it says that a resident of Canada cannot claim stuff if they've been in Canada in the past year . . . I had visited my parents in February (after not being in Canada for 1.5 years) . . . and didn't expect to see them again for another 1.5 years.
I can't claim non-residency, because I've still got stuff and loans in Canada.
Has anyone had experiences with this?
Will the border have a field day with the fact that I came for a 2-week visit in February (to stock up on supplies and see the Family) and tell me that i can't use the B4?
I'm not sure how anal customs are. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| MaestroCantus wrote: |
I've lived in Korea for over 3 years (Since July 2008), and since my school decided to not keep me another year, I'm returning to Canada a year earlier than I had planned. (I was going to stay 3 or 4 years, but it seems like 3 years is working out better).
However, my question is that when I read the B4 form, it says that a resident of Canada cannot claim stuff if they've been in Canada in the past year . . . I had visited my parents in February (after not being in Canada for 1.5 years) . . . and didn't expect to see them again for another 1.5 years.
I can't claim non-residency, because I've still got stuff and loans in Canada.
Has anyone had experiences with this?
Will the border have a field day with the fact that I came for a 2-week visit in February (to stock up on supplies and see the Family) and tell me that i can't use the B4?
I'm not sure how anal customs are. |
It seems like you are confused between the concept of severing ties and residency. You are a resident of Korea unless you spent more than 180 days in Canada over the last calendar year. Unless you severed ties in Canada (cancelled your healthcare and driver's license, liquidated assets such as property, vehicles, etc., and didn't access any social programs) and didn't re-establish residency in Canada, you will still have to pay taxes for each of the years that you were in Korea. They are not going to ask you about any of this malarky at the border. The people who care are Revenue Canada and your Accountant, Registries, your Provincial Healthcare program, and possibly Canada Student Loans. |
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MaestroCantus
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| MaestroCantus wrote: |
I've lived in Korea for over 3 years (Since July 2008), and since my school decided to not keep me another year, I'm returning to Canada a year earlier than I had planned. (I was going to stay 3 or 4 years, but it seems like 3 years is working out better).
However, my question is that when I read the B4 form, it says that a resident of Canada cannot claim stuff if they've been in Canada in the past year . . . I had visited my parents in February (after not being in Canada for 1.5 years) . . . and didn't expect to see them again for another 1.5 years.
I can't claim non-residency, because I've still got stuff and loans in Canada.
Has anyone had experiences with this?
Will the border have a field day with the fact that I came for a 2-week visit in February (to stock up on supplies and see the Family) and tell me that i can't use the B4?
I'm not sure how anal customs are. |
It seems like you are confused between the concept of severing ties and residency. You are a resident of Korea unless you spent more than 180 days in Canada over the last calendar year. Unless you severed ties in Canada (cancelled your healthcare and driver's license, liquidated assets such as property, vehicles, etc., and didn't access any social programs) and didn't re-establish residency in Canada, you will still have to pay taxes for each of the years that you were in Korea. They are not going to ask you about any of this malarky at the border. The people who care are Revenue Canada and your Accountant, Registries, your Provincial Healthcare program, and possibly Canada Student Loans. |
Thanks!
I was worried as I read through the Canada Border documents. I have been paying taxes while I've been here (actually, used up all my education credits, so now I've gotta start paying in cash!). I've got OHIP (even though the card's usually expired every time I returned for a visit), a bank account and Canadian credit card, and I have a big student loan . . . my dad advised me not to declare non-residency.
Thanks for the clarification!
. . . I just didn't know what "resident" means . . . it seems different depending on what you're looking at . . . resident for tax purposes seems different than resident for immigration purposes. Ugh . . . too much to think about nowadays. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| MaestroCantus wrote: |
| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| MaestroCantus wrote: |
I've lived in Korea for over 3 years (Since July 2008), and since my school decided to not keep me another year, I'm returning to Canada a year earlier than I had planned. (I was going to stay 3 or 4 years, but it seems like 3 years is working out better).
However, my question is that when I read the B4 form, it says that a resident of Canada cannot claim stuff if they've been in Canada in the past year . . . I had visited my parents in February (after not being in Canada for 1.5 years) . . . and didn't expect to see them again for another 1.5 years.
I can't claim non-residency, because I've still got stuff and loans in Canada.
Has anyone had experiences with this?
Will the border have a field day with the fact that I came for a 2-week visit in February (to stock up on supplies and see the Family) and tell me that i can't use the B4?
I'm not sure how anal customs are. |
It seems like you are confused between the concept of severing ties and residency. You are a resident of Korea unless you spent more than 180 days in Canada over the last calendar year. Unless you severed ties in Canada (cancelled your healthcare and driver's license, liquidated assets such as property, vehicles, etc., and didn't access any social programs) and didn't re-establish residency in Canada, you will still have to pay taxes for each of the years that you were in Korea. They are not going to ask you about any of this malarky at the border. The people who care are Revenue Canada and your Accountant, Registries, your Provincial Healthcare program, and possibly Canada Student Loans. |
Thanks!
I was worried as I read through the Canada Border documents. I have been paying taxes while I've been here (actually, used up all my education credits, so now I've gotta start paying in cash!). I've got OHIP (even though the card's usually expired every time I returned for a visit), a bank account and Canadian credit card, and I have a big student loan . . . my dad advised me not to declare non-residency.
Thanks for the clarification!
. . . I just didn't know what "resident" means . . . it seems different depending on what you're looking at . . . resident for tax purposes seems different than resident for immigration purposes. Ugh . . . too much to think about nowadays. |
Make sure you get your Korean pension returned. It will help with or possibly cover the cost of any taxes that you may owe. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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All that customs and immigration (Canadian Border Services Agency - CBSA) wants to know is what you are bringing back, the value of the goods to come into the country duty/tax free.
As a Canadian returning to Canada after being out for MORE THAN 1 year you are entitled to a $10,000 duty free allowance + $750 for your regular duty free.
There ARE some restrictions (ownership and use) on the $10,000.
There are no such restrictions on the $750.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fr-ar-eng.html
Taxes (Canada revenue agency) you won't have to deal with until next spring.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/menu-eng.html
In spite of being resident in Korea for 3 years you may be considered as a "deemed Canadian resident" for tax purposes DEPENDING on your ties to Canada and whether or not there was any "intent" to make your move abroad "permanent" at the time of your departure. You can get a non-binding opinion from the CRA by filing a NR-73 form http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/nr73/ .
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MaestroCantus
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| Make sure you get your Korean pension returned. It will help with or possibly cover the cost of any taxes that you may owe. |
How would I go about doing that?
I have no clue about such things.
Could someone post either an explanation, or links to stuff describing how to do that? |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| MaestroCantus wrote: |
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| Make sure you get your Korean pension returned. It will help with or possibly cover the cost of any taxes that you may owe. |
How would I go about doing that?
I have no clue about such things.
Could someone post either an explanation, or links to stuff describing how to do that? |
You apply to get it back; they deposit the money in your account.
Seriously now, this is one of the most commonly asked questions on the boards. Use the search function or Google it. |
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MaestroCantus
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Returning (Moving) to Canada in August -- Border Questio |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| MaestroCantus wrote: |
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| Make sure you get your Korean pension returned. It will help with or possibly cover the cost of any taxes that you may owe. |
How would I go about doing that?
I have no clue about such things.
Could someone post either an explanation, or links to stuff describing how to do that? |
You apply to get it back; they deposit the money in your account.
Seriously now, this is one of the most commonly asked questions on the boards. Use the search function or Google it. |
I just asked because the search function on this website usually has issues, and I'm really busy and thought someone might like to help. Sorry for asking. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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MaestroCantus
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks . . . I'm glad someone posted about this . . . definitely relieves some of my financial worries.
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| Great info on this thread. Thanks to Tom and Jaz. |
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