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Kuros
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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:08 am Post subject: Ron Paul Declines to run again for Congress |
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Ron Paul won't run for reelection to the House
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| I felt it was better that I concentrate on one election. It�s about that time when I should change tactics. |
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Greyjoy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| I was happy to give him my vote for the House. He can rethink his use of the phrase "our nation's Christian heritage" if he wants my vote for the presidency. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| It�s about that time when I should change tactics. |
Maybe he can break in to double digits with new tactics.  |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| It�s about that time when I should change tactics. |
Maybe he can break in to double digits with new tactics. |
Gallup Poll: RP at 10% support
And that's including non-contenders like Sarah "You betcha" Palin. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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This is from 'Texas on the Potomac: Washington news with a Texas accent':
With the loud buzz surrounding news of potential presidential bids from the Sarah Palin and Rick Perry camps, a recent poll sought to measure how the current field of candidates performs in a head-to-head test with the rest of the GOP Dream Team.
The Iowa Republican magazine asked 500 likely caucus goers who they would support at the 2012 Iowa Caucuses.
The ballot includes all the talked-about candidates, including individuals who have not yet officially thrown their hats in the ring: former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who says he has no interest in running for the Oval Office.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is the top candidate to beat, leading the field in Iowa with 18 percent, followed by Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann at 15 percent. Christie finishes third with 13 percent. Herman Cain and Palin tie for fourth place with 7 percent of the votes; Perry and Tim Pawlenty battle for fifth place with 6 percent each. Lake Jackson Congressman Ron Paul barely makes a dent with 5 percent, Newt Gingrich holds 3 percent of voters, and Rick Santorum and Jon Huntsman lag behind with 1 percent.
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/07/rick-perry-fifth-ron-paul-sixth-in-presidential-poll-with-iowa-caucus-goers/
Yes, we can do a 'battle of the polls' showing in one where he is all the way up there in the stratosphere with 10 or 11% or surging up to 7% somewhere else. My point is this is his third campaign and he still hasn't managed to catch fire outside his own little niche.
This is the first headline I saw this morning:
Ron Paul announces retirement from Congress Of course I took it as he was doing a Sarah Palin and quitting now. You can imagine my disappointment when I read the full story.  |
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Kuros
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| What? Sarah Palin didn't quit to run for office, she just quit. |
You doubt her latest: "I can win in 2012!", oh ye of little faith? She's the biggest celebrity representing the conservative viewpoint, the face of the movement. Shouldn't you be a little more supportive of the woman?
When you stop to think about it...Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Michelle Malkin, Phyllis Schlafley...the Right might be able to take out a copyright on 'harridan'. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| So, he's retiring? Good for him, he's getting to be that age. I wonder if he collects social security. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd enjoy seeing him be in the running. I think he asks questions that most of them do not. |
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Friend Lee Ghost
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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End of an Era
He was a noble Congressman. Frak any statist or neo-con who says otherwise. As for President, well . . . we could do a lot worse! |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what will happen to all the rEVOLutionaries once Paul bows out of the primaries. Will they still rally around a private citizen Paul, or just switch over to the Rand bandwagon. Lots of passionate, obsessed, people will have a huge whole in their lives. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| I wonder what will happen to all the rEVOLutionaries once Paul bows out of the primaries. Will they still rally around a private citizen Paul, or just switch over to the Rand bandwagon. Lots of passionate, obsessed, people will have a huge whole in their lives. |
It's a non-issue. Most libertarians (at least that I've met) are in it for the ideas and don't worship personalities like the Obamanoids do. It is not a fad, nor a cult (of course there are a bunch of phonies in the Tea Party movement who think freedom and patriotism means bombing other countries and setting up a police state back home, but nobody with an even superficial understanding would consider them to be real libertarians; and few if any of those types of people would vote for Ron Paul anyway). Ron Paul is hardly a charismatic or glamorous figure - he's just popular because he's the real deal. He's the same today as he was 30 year ago. He will be missed when he does finally bow out, but the movement will certainly continue unabated. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| I wonder what will happen to all the rEVOLutionaries once Paul bows out of the primaries. Will they still rally around a private citizen Paul, or just switch over to the Rand bandwagon. Lots of passionate, obsessed, people will have a huge whole in their lives. |
It's a non-issue. Most libertarians (at least that I've met) are in it for the ideas and don't worship personalities like the Obamanoids do. It is not a fad, nor a cult (of course there are a bunch of phonies in the Tea Party movement who think freedom and patriotism means bombing other countries and setting up a police state back home, but nobody with an even superficial understanding would consider them to be real libertarians; and few if any of those types of people would vote for Ron Paul anyway). Ron Paul is hardly a charismatic or glamorous figure - he's just popular because he's the real deal. He's the same today as he was 30 year ago. He will be missed when he does finally bow out, but the movement will certainly continue unabated. |
I think you're wrong, again judging from the Libertarians I've met. A large part of the libertarian movement in the United States coalesces around Paul. Without him, who will they rally to? Rand, maybe but he is less ideologically pure than his dad. What do libs. do when they want to recruit someone, usually they use youtube links to Ron Paul. He gives the Libs. a reason to be interested in national elections, someone to rally to and hold fundraisers for and hold up signs and all that. It allows them to feel like they are part of the political process. With out a standard bearer they lose that. Hardcore Libs won't change, but like with any movement you have your core, and you have the people who dig it, but not fully invested. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| I wonder what will happen to all the rEVOLutionaries once Paul bows out of the primaries. Will they still rally around a private citizen Paul, or just switch over to the Rand bandwagon. Lots of passionate, obsessed, people will have a huge whole in their lives. |
It's a non-issue. Most libertarians (at least that I've met) are in it for the ideas and don't worship personalities like the Obamanoids do. It is not a fad, nor a cult (of course there are a bunch of phonies in the Tea Party movement who think freedom and patriotism means bombing other countries and setting up a police state back home, but nobody with an even superficial understanding would consider them to be real libertarians; and few if any of those types of people would vote for Ron Paul anyway). Ron Paul is hardly a charismatic or glamorous figure - he's just popular because he's the real deal. He's the same today as he was 30 year ago. He will be missed when he does finally bow out, but the movement will certainly continue unabated. |
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I agree with this. Ron Paul definitely doesn't have the personal pull of Obama (or the total in-race appeal; he can't pull in over 80% support from all Caucasians). He exudes an old-man-on-the-bus vibe, and I say that sympathetically.
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| A large part of the libertarian movement in the United States coalesces around Paul. Without him, who will they rally to? Rand . . . |
You should've just stopped there. They will rally to Rand, or whoever else. Let's hope Gary Johnson for 2016? |
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