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tfunk
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:03 am Post subject: Dublin, Ireland - K-Pop Flash Mob! |
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Flash Mob in Grafton St. at 1pm
Flash Mob in O�Connell St. at 2pm
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The members of Kpop Ireland are holding a Flashmob on Grafton street and O'Connell street to show the world their love for Kpop. Recently across Europe there have been a lot of Flashmobs to show Korean music companies that their artists have many fans across the world and Ireland is no different! |
From http://www.meetup.com/dublinkorea/events/25458651/?a=me1.2o_grp&rv=me1.2o[/quote] |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| jesus the the crisis is serious in Ireland, SM entertainment are paying for people to come out and show support for a group they have never even heard of LOL |
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lawyertood
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| When six people equals a flash mob..... |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| jesus the the crisis is serious in Ireland, SM entertainment are paying for people to come out and show support for a group they have never even heard of LOL |
Any evidence? |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| Koreadays wrote: |
| jesus the the crisis is serious in Ireland, SM entertainment are paying for people to come out and show support for a group they have never even heard of LOL |
Any evidence? |
you ever been to Ireland? |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| Koreadays wrote: |
| jesus the the crisis is serious in Ireland, SM entertainment are paying for people to come out and show support for a group they have never even heard of LOL |
Any evidence? |
you ever been to Ireland? |
Yes I have.
So do you have any evidence that SME is paying for the flashmobs in Ireland? Or are you just another hater? |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| Koreadays wrote: |
| jesus the the crisis is serious in Ireland, SM entertainment are paying for people to come out and show support for a group they have never even heard of LOL |
Any evidence? |
you ever been to Ireland? |
What does having in Ireland have to do with answering his question?
Looks like you got caught making up facts to fit your world view. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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What annoys some people is that they can see where this is going. Flash mob with 20/50/100 people (whatever) in Dublin + newspaper article = K Pop is now officially 'popular' in Europe. Some of my adult students are already coming out with this kind of statement as if it's an undisputed fact. In the same way as they say Korean cuisine is 'popular' all over the world - it clearly isn't - or Korean people I haven't even heard of, and I'm living in the country, are international household names. Yes we should be more tolerant and look more indulgently on their efforts to become better known in the world but when they come out with stuff that just isn't true it's kind of hard to accept it.
'Brit pop' as a movement in the mid nineties was not even considered to have been 'popular' in the States by British people as bands such as Blur only sold albums in the hundreds of thousands, even though Oasis' What's the Story Morning Glory sold around 4 million. So without being a hater I'm obviously going to argue that K Pop is not 'popular' all over the world when the Wondergirls' peaked at 76 in the billboard charts. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
What annoys some people is that they can see where this is going. Flash mob with 20/50/100 people (whatever) in Dublin + newspaper article = K Pop is now officially 'popular' in Europe. Some of my adult students are already coming out with this kind of statement as if it's an undisputed fact. In the same way as they say Korean cuisine is 'popular' all over the world - it clearly isn't - or Korean people I haven't even heard of, and I'm living in the country, are international household names. Yes we should be more tolerant and look more indulgently on their efforts to become better known in the world but when they come out with stuff that just isn't true it's kind of hard to accept it.
'Brit pop' as a movement in the mid nineties was not even considered to have been 'popular' in the States by British people as bands such as Blur only sold albums in the hundreds of thousands, even though Oasis' What's the Story Morning Glory sold around 4 million. So without being a hater I'm obviously going to argue that K Pop is not 'popular' all over the world when the Wondergirls' peaked at 76 in the billboard charts. |
Read the OP's post again.
"The members of Kpop Ireland are holding a Flashmob on Grafton street and O'Connell street to show the world their love for Kpop. Recently across Europe there have been a lot of Flashmobs to show Korean music companies that their artists have many fans across the world and Ireland is no different!"
It doesn't state that kpop is officially popular in Europe or all over the world. But kpop does get attention in Europe and you can't deny that. Flashmobs are just a way to express their love for kpop and these European kpop fans are hoping to have kpop concerts in their countries. You just have no clue because you're not into it.
As for Wondergirls, they left Korea for the US and became "nobody". It was more like a permanent move. That's not kpop anymore. It's a big mistake that JYP shouldn't have made. But a good lesson for all other kpop artists and agencies. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Read my post again. I said people could see where this was heading. Koreans already are using articles like this as proof that K pop is popular in Europe and are saying it over and over again. I've heard Korean adults say it often, It's just not most people's idea of popular that's all. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Read my post again. I said people could see where this was heading. Koreans already are using articles like this as proof that K pop is popular in Europe and are saying it over and over again. I've heard Korean adults say it often, It's just not most people's idea of popular that's all. |
you need to read your post again.
What annoys some people is that they can see where this is going. Flash mob with 20/50/100 people (whatever) in Dublin + newspaper article = K Pop is now officially 'popular' in Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNnbL0E7aE
Why does it annoy you? Because you're not into kpop!
Even though kpop doesn't appeal to all different age groups it is getting popular in Europe and eventually will be a timeless fad. So don't try downplaying kpop events like concerts and flashmobs when you don't even know much about kpop popularity in Europe. And you can't stop it. . |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| Flashmobs are for morons. People desperate for attention all congregate in one place. Seriously, go read a book or something people. Flashmobs? Really? Is life that lonely, boring, and quietly desperate? |
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HarryMorgan
Joined: 02 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Flashmobs are for morons. |
Yeah. I only recently found out what a flashmob is: the lamest thing ever.
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And you can't stop it. . |
One would have to be a tad mental to believe that this infantile teeny bop noise, from a random country the size of Kentucky, could make any notable impact on the world stage of music. Only ripples. Of course random 16 year-olds in other random places of the globalized world might take to it briefly. But that's not very remarkable. OK, fine, you like it. And I won't deny that I find it excruciating to listen to. But there has been so much great music made over decades, come on people!
Just remembered reading this PJ O'Rourke quote years back:
"Asia is the continent rhythm forgot. At best Asian music is off-brand American pop, like Sonny Bono in a karaoke bar. At worst Asian music sounds as if a truck full of wind chimes collided with a stack of empty oil drums during a birdcall contest." |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Why does it annoy you? |
Not sure what 'it' refers to in your question but I'll try to answer it
K pop annoys me because I have to listen to it every time I go into a shop, walk around in shopping areas, sit in a fast food restaurant, wait for a subway train etc etc..It's not a major annoyance just mildly irritating.
Flashmob thingies don't annoy me as such, though I imagine if you were caught up in one while strolling aorund O'Connell street minding your own business, it might be a nuisance.
Korean adults saying things llike 'K Pop is popular all over Europe' annoy me a little because a) I don't think it's true and b) I'm pretty sure the only evidence they have for this kind of statement is something they read in the Korean press about the odd concert here and there or flash mob type events. To me that's not 'popular'. Popular is singles and albums in the top ten. It's got nothing to do with Koreans or pop music either, if a Canadian came up to me and said Canadian soap operas were the latest thing in the UK in an authoratative kind of way, (and I wasn't in a position to argue with them) that would annoy me a little too.
It's also got nothing to do with whether I'm 'into' K pop or not. I'm not into Lady Ga Ga or Justin Beiber but It's kind of filtered though to me that these acts are popular in Europe. Not so with K Pop. When one or more songs get high up into the charts over there and are being played on the radio I will be quite happy concede the point. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Flashmobs are for morons. |
Yeah. I only recently found out what a flashmob is: the lamest thing ever.
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And you can't stop it. . |
One would have to be a tad mental to believe that this infantile teeny bop noise, from a random country the size of Kentucky, could make any notable impact on the world stage of music. Only ripples. Of course random 16 year-olds in other random places of the globalized world might take to it briefly. But that's not very remarkable. OK, fine, you like it. And I won't deny that I find it excruciating to listen to. But there has been so much great music made over decades, come on people!
Just remembered reading this PJ O'Rourke quote years back:
"Asia is the continent rhythm forgot. At best Asian music is off-brand American pop, like Sonny Bono in a karaoke bar. At worst Asian music sounds as if a truck full of wind chimes collided with a stack of empty oil drums during a birdcall contest." |
She was basically correct, but dead wrong about the underground scene in Japan (understandable to a degree because its hard to find info on).
Yeah, if you have to rely on flash mobs to prove your worth, you've already dug your own grave; even if they were real (absolutely sure no ex-pat Koreans/music execs involved  ), as pointed out the type of people who get involved in a flash mob generally bring discredit and lameness to whatever they're hooting about. |
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