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A mere glimpse into the wondoeful of K-pop

 
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: A mere glimpse into the wondoeful of K-pop Reply with quote

Getting a free ride through uni if you are a finger-waggin' K-pop singer "on scholarshp" is just a crumb, and so are these findings-

http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110721000562


Police crack down on showbiz corruption
2011-07-21 16:04

Police said Thursday they booked 29 people, including a chief executive of a cable TV network, who allegedly took money from new singers in return for rigging various online rankings of K-pop songs or helping them appear on TV.

They were among the 140 people caught on charges stemming from 14 corruption cases, the National Police Agency (NPA) said after a four-month nationwide crackdown on irregularities by the local entertainment industry.

Police put five of them under arrest for further probes.

In the detected cases, about 65 percent of the suspects were entertainment agency executives, TV producers and workers for industry interest groups while about 97 percent of the victims were celebrity aspirants, the NPA said.

Also among those booked without physical detention was a top executive of a local cable TV network who allegedly received 150 million won ($142,099) from 10 new singers from 2009 till recently in exchange for helping them appear on the TV channel's show programs, police said. They, however, did not give the name of the cable TV network.

"We conducted an intensive crackdown to combat crimes against celebrity aspirants, who are socially weak," a police official involved in the crackdown said, requesting not to be named.

Police will expand their investigation into corruption by entertainment industry figures, the official said. (Yonhap News)


Yeah, money speaks louder than talent, surprise surprise. Sure this kinda thing happens in other countries. But here teen exploitation is so rampant that an effort needs to be made to show that the government is "getting tough". Also underscores the fact that ability as a determining factor for success is low on the totem pole. But if you can train like a slave monkey and reshape your face and figure, you just might be allowed to pony up some money to be seen lip synching someone else's songs.
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2i2dk1ny2i3



Joined: 26 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deja Vu!~
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


His point is he is talking about KPop. Why do you have to be such an apologist.

If someone comes on here and claims that their street is dirty, is there really the need to chime in with so are the streets in England, America, and Canada?
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Ave, L�cifer



Joined: 22 Feb 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


This is a ridiculous post, why can't people on a Korean forum discuss things that come out in the news in Korea?

The corruption in Korea is certainly different and just generally more prevalent than most other first-world countries. Your comparisons were apples with oranges and a little bewildering.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ignore steelrails he makes the same tired "go against the grind" post once a day it seems like.


he's like bruce w sims, without the pretentious writing style.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the third KPop thread in as many weeks. The same comments are going to come out. Cut to the chase.

Blah Blah Blah...Superficial...Sheeple...Blah Blah Blah


Blah Blah Blah...But Back Home...You're racist...Blah Blah Blah
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komerican



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankhenry wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


His point is he is talking about KPop. Why do you have to be such an apologist.

If someone comes on here and claims that their street is dirty, is there really the need to chime in with so are the streets in England, America, and Canada?


No, this is a discussion board. It's all good. You have haters and you have apologists. I always find it amazing how people will rant and rave when someone disagrees. This is not NK, folks.

And to be honest from my experience on these forums you have a lot of overly emotional English teachers who have an axe to grind. They're usually having a bad day, month, year, life and they suddenly decide Korea and Koreans are to blame. (When they should be blaming themselves). (shrugs)

So really, it's all good (most of it anyway, lol) and just try not to feel so threatened by it.
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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marsavalanche wrote:
ignore steelrails he makes the same tired "go against the grind" post once a day it seems like.


he's like bruce w sims, without the pretentious writing style.


Which he confirms with the above. Doesn't really consider the details of the issue, but just seems to throw together the same "they do it in other countries, too" apologist defence. As Ave, Lucifer points out, its on a different level here.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ave, L�cifer wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


This is a ridiculous post, why can't people on a Korean forum discuss things that come out in the news in Korea?

The corruption in Korea is certainly different and just generally more prevalent than most other first-world countries. Your comparisons were apples with oranges and a little bewildering.


Oh really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/business/12payola.html

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8700936/ns/today-entertainment/t/sony-bmg-music-settles-spitzers-payola-probe/

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1591155&page=1

Now, as far as I can tell these incidents are all fairly comparable.

So yes, it is the same.

In fact some people think payola is all that bad.

http://www.slate.com/id/2123483/

As for these poor "exploited" celeb-wannabes, go cry me a river. There's a reason in the old days performers were seen as a notch above the people of ill repute and often they overlapped.
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frankhenry



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


His point is he is talking about KPop. Why do you have to be such an apologist.

If someone comes on here and claims that their street is dirty, is there really the need to chime in with so are the streets in England, America, and Canada?


No, this is a discussion board. It's all good. You have haters and you have apologists. I always find it amazing how people will rant and rave when someone disagrees. This is not NK, folks.

And to be honest from my experience on these forums you have a lot of overly emotional English teachers who have an axe to grind. They're usually having a bad day, month, year, life and they suddenly decide Korea and Koreans are to blame. (When they should be blaming themselves). (shrugs)

So really, it's all good (most of it anyway, lol) and just try not to feel so threatened by it.


another little brother inferiority complex known as an apologist

If I say the price of rice went up in my neighborhood, an apologist will come on here and say it went up in Canada too.

That's right. It's all good. And, you feel the need to compensate...
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the banality of Rebecca Black? Or the absolute idiocy of Keisha? Koreans skim American culture and emulate all of the cheap saccharine crap....and there is a lot. I think the best thing was for the Wonder Girls to tour with the Jonas brothers...a perfect marriage of East meets West only to discover there is no difference at all.

The world just wants your money. They will do anything to get it. The End.
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankhenry wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Yes, KPop is superficial and manufactured and corrupt.

So is McDonald's, Budweiser and much of sport.

Your point?

I enjoy a big mac and I enjoy my KPop.


His point is he is talking about KPop. Why do you have to be such an apologist.

If someone comes on here and claims that their street is dirty, is there really the need to chime in with so are the streets in England, America, and Canada?

I totally agree with the sentiment, but why throw fuel on the fire of idiots? If someone wants to believe in certain rubbish, so what? How does it affect you? Let them grow old in a racist, backward country and see how they roll when they have nothing left to offer and nothing to go back to. The old-timers worth their salt here have already realised that the gravy train is grinding to a halt. Time to get a real career or get out. Simple. There's still a place for the horny newb, and good luck to them. We were all there once, so rip in, lads, and have some fun. I know I did.
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