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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: T Bill investing? Reply with quote

Has any one here set up a US T Bill ladder?

How did you go about doing it?

The US's rating was just downgraded from AAA+ to AA+. It's reasonable to suspect that this will affect treasure rates for long term and short term loans (or bills.) Finally. Since for the last year I haven't seen them go above .15% and usually they hang around the .02% range.

Man, I miss the days when they were 5%.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US rating was downgraded by 1 of the 3 big firms, not across the board.

Since interest rates there are so low, why put your money there? I am making an easy 3.2 on CD's here in Korea, and that's with a short, 3 month maturity.

If you really want T bills, just call a broker and set it up. I have some of my money in the US - my broker does that kind of stuff. It's just like ordering a pizza.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also buy directly from the Treasury.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/myaccount/myaccount_treasurydirect.htm
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Highwayman



Joined: 22 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd keep my money out of US dollars for the time being. QE3 is on the way and soon it's not going to be worth the paper it's printed on. This is no short-term event. America is in terminal decline.
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Riddle



Joined: 19 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
The US rating was downgraded by 1 of the 3 big firms, not across the board.

Since interest rates there are so low, why put your money there? I am making an easy 3.2 on CD's here in Korea, and that's with a short, 3 month maturity.

If you really want T bills, just call a broker and set it up. I have some of my money in the US - my broker does that kind of stuff. It's just like ordering a pizza.


I very much agree with this line of thinking. Set up a Korean CD ladder instead and reap interest rates hovering around 4.3 percent. I'm not using a ladder, but have been very pleased with the rates at Shinhan. My gf says that if you go to the smaller banks, you can get even higher rates. Then again, I plan on living in Korea for the long term.

For those of you who have opened CDs and find that another bank is offering a higher interest rate, ask your bank to match the rate. An acquaintance of mine recently had success with this.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highwayman wrote:
I'd keep my money out of US dollars for the time being. QE3 is on the way and soon it's not going to be worth the paper it's printed on. This is no short-term event. America is in terminal decline.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 3 months the shortest maturity you can get?

3.2 sounds great, but I'm looking at starting with very little. Ideally I want the ladder to be $100 a week for 4 weeks. Waiting a month to get 3.2 or even 2.2 on a hundred would be awesome. Waiting 3 months for $3.20 hardly seems worth it.
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jondepoer



Joined: 02 May 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to ask obvious questions, but what exactly is a CD? Some sort of term deposit? I've heard of this before, but have never really researched it.

If you have a moment to humor me...

Supposing I had 10,000,000 to play with, what am I looking at as a return for a 12 month deposit?
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Highwayman



Joined: 22 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jondepoer wrote:
Sorry to ask obvious questions, but what exactly is a CD? Some sort of term deposit? I've heard of this before, but have never really researched it.

If you have a moment to humor me...

Supposing I had 10,000,000 to play with, what am I looking at as a return for a 12 month deposit?

Certificate of Deposit - as you said, basically a term deposit.

The return depends on the interest rate.

The math isn't complex. Just multiplication.
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