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Netty_oz
Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:09 am Post subject: Pros and Cons: can you help me decide which job is better? |
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Hi there!
So, i've just been offered a couple of jobs in the Seoul area.
The first is through CDI (Chung Dahm Learning) in Dongdaemun. The hours are from 3pm-10pm. I'll be getting 27,000 won per hour and they guarantee 100 hours per month. They don't provide accommodation or severance pay. Apparently i'll be teaching elementary - middle school students.
The second offer is through Kids College in Janghanpyeong. It's 9am-6pm teaching Kindy-elementary. I'll have a share house with 3 other teachers and get paid 2.1mil. It includes severance, etc.
Which position do you think would be better? I'm fresh out of University, I have completed a graduate diploma in Education and have a TESOL certificate. Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Is this a joke?
1) Google "ESL Cafe CDI" and see what comes up. You'll soon realize why that's a bad idea.
2) Working a kinder job you should be making 2.2 starting, based on my school and those of everyone else I know. Even if you're willing to forgo the 100,000 a month, shared housing with three other people is something I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
Wait a bit longer, be a bit more demanding, and you'll find a better offer. |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, neither. CDI is usually awful. Kids College is very hit or miss and the shared housing thing is a major gamble (a losing one for you).
With your certifications you should be getting 2.3 minimum. Don't sell yourself short if you can afford to wait a couple of weeks to find something better. |
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ElephantJumper
Joined: 26 Apr 2011
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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I was offered that kids college job last week. Turned it down because the contract was BS. |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Saigon
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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As others already said, neither. CDI is a ripoff by definition and the kindy job... well, let's just say I'd pass if someone offered me 3.0 per month + standard benefits for 9-6 kindy. And the shared housing thing is a joke. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: |
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ssuprnova wrote: |
As others already said, neither. CDI is a ripoff by definition and the kindy job... well, let's just say I'd pass if someone offered me 3.0 per month + standard benefits for 9-6 kindy. And the shared housing thing is a joke. |
I actually like teaching kindy, as do many others, but that's a really bad kindy gig between the pay and the housing. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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CDI, say no more, like pp said GOOGLE!!
'Teaching' kindy 9-6=burnout
sharing house with people is never easy, even with friends. Now consider sharing a house with strangers, strangers that are highly likely to be nut jobs!! In the six years I have been here, I've met way too many nut jobs, who have shockingly poor personal hygiene to ever contemplate sharing.
Out of Uni, looking for an adventure eh, be careful for what you wish for kid!!  |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Location: under the hat
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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I might consider kinder if I really liked working with kids. However, shared housing is enough to make me turn down any contract.
I would have to be really desperate to consider working for CDI.
Keep looking... |
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mikeybhoy
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Avoid both jobs. |
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nena
Joined: 19 Nov 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I definitely agree with your answers.
Those offers both have MAJOR drawbacks. Someone with your qualifications really doesn't need to settle for that.
(By the way, I'm one of those people who prefers working as a kindergarten teacher. But the hours can cause major burnout if they're too excessive.)
Hold out for better living arrangements and a reputable school. You deserve it. |
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Hotpants
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Which position do you think would be better? I'm fresh out of University, I have completed a graduate diploma in Education and have a TESOL certificate. |
Ask yourself why do you want to work so many hours for relatively low pay in (arguably) semi-professional outfits after you have made the effort to actually get properly qualified.
Despite being totally new to Korea, I certainly think you can do better if you shop around. Don't take the first jobs on offer unless you don't really care about the sweatshop conditions.
For CDI, every CDI branch can be quite different, as a lot depends on the director running it. Also another important factor is actual teaching hours. CDI could say a minimum of 100 hours, when the reality might be up to 160. And then what if they all of a sudden can't 'guarantee' you 100 hours, or put you on an am-pm split shift? CDI is a big machine and can use you as they see fit. Seeing one of their contracts gives me the shudders. |
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BankOfRC
Joined: 06 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Has to be a joke or do people actually volunteer to be tortured? Neither offer is worth coming to Korea for. My god. |
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Netty_oz
Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I was a bit too wide-eyed and in want of adventure, eh?
Thanks everyone for your advice and/or mild wonder at my complete naivety, it is much appreciated. I've been offered a job in Ilsan which sounds better.  |
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