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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: does the right hand know what the left is doing? (e2renewal) |
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So I was under the impression that in order to renew my E2 visa I would have to supply immigration with a new notarised Degree copy and a notarised RCMP background check. Which I got done while I was on vacation back home in Calgary. Turns out that was all a waste of money; I renewed my visa today and I was told that I didn't need to submit those things, because I work for SMOE. Oddly the people at SMOE were the ones that informed me I needed to get these documents. So turns out it was all a waste of time and money.
Anybody else here work for SMOE, did you need to supply these documents when you renewed your visa, or did I just get an immigration officer that had no idea what they were talking about? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: does the right hand know what the left is doing? (e2rene |
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| crisdean wrote: |
So I was under the impression that in order to renew my E2 visa I would have to supply immigration with a new notarised Degree copy and a notarised RCMP background check. Which I got done while I was on vacation back home in Calgary. Turns out that was all a waste of money; I renewed my visa today and I was told that I didn't need to submit those things, because I work for SMOE. Oddly the people at SMOE were the ones that informed me I needed to get these documents. So turns out it was all a waste of time and money.
Anybody else here work for SMOE, did you need to supply these documents when you renewed your visa, or did I just get an immigration officer that had no idea what they were talking about? |
You are in the yes and no category.
IF Kimmi had them on file (consulate certified - not just notarized) already you didn't need to do them again.
If you haven't had a change of status this year you wouldn't have needed them till 2012 - grandfather clause.
If neither A or B then you would have needed them.
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: does the right hand know what the left is doing? (e2rene |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
You are in the yes and no category.
IF Kimmi had them on file (consulate certified - not just notarized) already you didn't need to do them again.
If you haven't had a change of status this year you wouldn't have needed them till 2012 - grandfather clause.
If neither A or B then you would have needed them.
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Thanx for the quick reply.
To my knowledge they didn't have these on file, because when I applied for the last renewal back in January they made me sign a form that I would agree to provide them with these documents on my next renewal.
With the grandfather clause I would have assumed that they would have just taken the documents now since I have them, but she refused to even look at them.
So I'm still confused about the whole thing, but whatever, I guess it doesn't matter since I'm planning on moving on after this year to something, anything, else. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: does the right hand know what the left is doing? (e2rene |
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| crisdean wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
You are in the yes and no category.
IF Kimmi had them on file (consulate certified - not just notarized) already you didn't need to do them again.
If you haven't had a change of status this year you wouldn't have needed them till 2012 - grandfather clause.
If neither A or B then you would have needed them.
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Thanx for the quick reply.
To my knowledge they didn't have these on file, because when I applied for the last renewal back in January they made me sign a form that I would agree to provide them with these documents on my next renewal.
With the grandfather clause I would have assumed that they would have just taken the documents now since I have them, but she refused to even look at them.
So I'm still confused about the whole thing, but whatever, I guess it doesn't matter since I'm planning on moving on after this year to something, anything, else. |
Which "she" refused to take them? Kimmi or your co-teacher?
Your co-teacher is probably clueless when it comes to dealing with Kimmi.
If it was the lady at the counter at Kimmi AND they were K-consulate certified (not just notarized) then I am surprised.
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| when I applied for the last renewal back in January they made me sign a form that I would agree to provide them with these documents on my next renewal. |
Considering this may have no effect on your situation if you leave Korea anyway, thanks for sharing this problem.
Someone in this situation has 2 options:
A) Take the form back to immigration. With a korean friend or employer who can speak Korean, tell them about this so they can update their files with the criminal background check.
B) Get new documents (when needed) again.
If you do A, then at least you will have it on record and make any transfers later on easier. |
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Nester Noodlemon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| the right hand usually doesn't even know what the right hand is doing! |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
| the right hand usually doesn't even know what the right hand is doing! |
So what? Are you going to spend more time making sure departments put the right files in the right folder? Or, are you going to spend more time making sure the individual sees their file is going in the right folder?
It's like cutting grass, as long as you are straight on your lawn, the job is done. Don't worry about the neighbors. |
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Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
| the right hand usually doesn't even know what the right hand is doing! |
So what? Are you going to spend more time making sure departments put the right files in the right folder? Or, are you going to spend more time making sure the individual sees their file is going in the right folder?
It's like cutting grass, as long as you are straight on your lawn, the job is done. Don't worry about the neighbors. |
Yep. That was what I was referring to. That being, the hands are the neighbor. |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| when I applied for the last renewal back in January they made me sign a form that I would agree to provide them with these documents on my next renewal. |
Considering this may have no effect on your situation if you leave Korea anyway, thanks for sharing this problem.
Someone in this situation has 2 options:
A) Take the form back to immigration. With a korean friend or employer who can speak Korean, tell them about this so they can update their files with the criminal background check.
B) Get new documents (when needed) again.
If you do A, then at least you will have it on record and make any transfers later on easier. |
yeah, they (immigration) kept that form in their own records. I presumed that they would stick it in my face if I tried to renew without providing the appropriate documents, which they apparently no longer care about, maybe...
I think I might do something similar to A and get one of my co-teachers to call and verify my record, if I really don't need to worry about it great, if I just happened to slip through a crack and they decide I should give them the documents no big deal since I have them in hand anyways.
| ttompatz wrote: |
Which "she" refused to take them? Kimmi or your co-teacher?
Your co-teacher is probably clueless when it comes to dealing with Kimmi.
If it was the lady at the counter at Kimmi AND they were K-consulate certified (not just notarized) then I am surprised. |
Kimmi.
I don't even bother bringing one of the co-teachers for this kind of thing, it really isn't necessary, they generally have even less of an idea of what's going on than your average fresh of the plane woneomin.
For the record the degree was K-consulate certified, the CBC had a statutory declaration with/from the Canadian Embassy. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Current requirements state that your CBC MUST have k-consulate certification (they no longer accept embassy affidavits at kimmi) which may be why they declined it.
If you signed the form you will need to submit the K-consulate certified CBC for your next change of status (renewal, extension, transfer, etc).
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