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Can I get a job in Korea with dual citizenship?
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nellehehe



Joined: 08 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Can I get a job in Korea with dual citizenship? Reply with quote

So here's my situation.

I'm Korean-American, female, US-born citizen.
I am fluent in both English and Korean.
My dad didn't have an American citizenship at the time I was born, (he got it after I was born) so I'm not qualified for ANY of the visas. NO E-2. NO F4. NOTHING. Met/talked to the consulate, and it came down to this.

For me to teach English at Korea for a year (which is what I'm trying to do), I need to get dual citizenship and work in Korea as a Korean citizen.

I heard that it's going to be hard to find a job as a Korean citizen.. finding good pay, good hours, airfare, housing, etc.

Ideally, I want to work at Seoul, 9-5 job. (Those 2-10 jobs sound ridonkulous.)

What do you think?


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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you male and of conscription age? Those are very important questions before you come to Korea as a Korean citizen.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Can I get a job in Korea with dual citizenship? Reply with quote

nellehehe wrote:
So here's my situation.

For me to teach English at Korea for a year (which is what I'm trying to do), I need to get dual citizenship and work in Korea as a Korean citizen.



You should be aware that if you are a male Korean citizen and under 40 years of age you are subject to Korea's mandatory conscription law. In other words they can (and VERY likely will) require you to serve in the army for about 2 years. And no the U.S embassy can not and will not help you on this.
This has happened before.

If however you are female then you won't be expected to serve military duty. But be aware that whether you are male or female you may be expected to act and be treated like a native born Korean if you work at a hakwon.
In other words a lower paying job and extra duties, no free housing, longer hours... Good jobs do exist...but as a 'newbie' you are not as likely to get one of them off the bat.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing about coming to Korea as a Korean citizen eligible for the draft: you are not eligible for the KATUSA program.
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nellehehe



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgot to write that. I'M A FEMALE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, you CAN get an E2 based on your US passport and US degree.

Just jump through the hoops like any other E2 applicant and DON'T tell the consulate that you are Korean (they won't know you from a Chinese American unless you tell them. They don't ask for your parents information unless you try to get an F-visa.

AFTER you land in Korea, if you want to reclaim your Korean citizenship then that is an option for you to look at (or ignore it and work towards an F2/F5 if you prefer).

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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Actually, you CAN get an E2 based on your US passport and US degree.

Just jump through the hoops like any other E2 applicant and DON'T tell the consulate that you are Korean (they won't know you from a Chinese American unless you tell them. They don't ask for your parents information unless you try to get an F-visa.

AFTER you land in Korea, if you want to reclaim your Korean citizenship then that is an option for you to look at (or ignore it and work towards an F2/F5 if you prefer).

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THIS.

Get the F2-7. Assuming you're 25-29, have your Bachelors degree, and speak fluent Korean, you've got 69 points of the 80 needed. Earning under 35 mil a year is another 5 points, that's 74 - picking up the other six points is a cake walk. The fact you speak fluent Korean makes this the perfect option, IMO.
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nellehehe



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Actually, you CAN get an E2 based on your US passport and US degree.

Just jump through the hoops like any other E2 applicant and DON'T tell the consulate that you are Korean (they won't know you from a Chinese American unless you tell them. They don't ask for your parents information unless you try to get an F-visa.

AFTER you land in Korea, if you want to reclaim your Korean citizenship then that is an option for you to look at (or ignore it and work towards an F2/F5 if you prefer).

.


THIS.

Get the F2-7. Assuming you're 25-29, have your Bachelors degree, and speak fluent Korean, you've got 69 points of the 80 needed. Earning under 35 mil a year is another 5 points, that's 74 - picking up the other six points is a cake walk. The fact you speak fluent Korean makes this the perfect option, IMO.



I'm 21 years old, turning 22 this November. JUST got out of college. I hope I can do what you guys are saying and get an E-2/F2. I'll try. Thanks guysss. I hope it workss!
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellehehe wrote:
nathanrutledge wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Actually, you CAN get an E2 based on your US passport and US degree.

Just jump through the hoops like any other E2 applicant and DON'T tell the consulate that you are Korean (they won't know you from a Chinese American unless you tell them. They don't ask for your parents information unless you try to get an F-visa.

AFTER you land in Korea, if you want to reclaim your Korean citizenship then that is an option for you to look at (or ignore it and work towards an F2/F5 if you prefer).

.


THIS.

Get the F2-7. Assuming you're 25-29, have your Bachelors degree, and speak fluent Korean, you've got 69 points of the 80 needed. Earning under 35 mil a year is another 5 points, that's 74 - picking up the other six points is a cake walk. The fact you speak fluent Korean makes this the perfect option, IMO.



I'm 21 years old, turning 22 this November. JUST got out of college. I hope I can do what you guys are saying and get an E-2/F2. I'll try. Thanks guysss. I hope it workss!


Okay, your age knocks a few points off, but it doesn't really matter. You have to be in Korea for 1 year on an E2 to apply for the F2-7 anyway. Just take the Korean integration course and volunteer somewhere during the first year and you'll have it.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your mother Korean too? Did your parents marry in the US and never had it registered in Korea? If so I think you may have a shot at an F-4. I know of a few guy's parents were still single when they left Korea and are still recorded that way in the records. They still managed to get F-4 visas (even though both parents got US citizenship after they were born) since both parents were still considered single in the records.

Also, consider coming to Korea first and then apply for an F-4 Visa. If you're willing to risk a flight back home and getting an E-2 in failure. Pretty often the immigration officials in Korea apply rules differently than the guys at the consulate. Immigration officials in different regions apply rules differently too.
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you cannot get dual citizenship as far as i know.

from what i know you can't go to the korean consulate in the usa and get a citizenship for korea without meeting certain stipulations and even then the usa does not recognize dual citizenships so if you hold a us passport and attempt to get another citizenship on us soil you'd have to renounce the us citizenship. anyone more knowledgable than me in this matter feel free to chime in.

as for getting one in rok, they also did not recognize dual citizenships until last year. now a foreigner can get a korean passport without having to renounce their own citizenship if they meet these requirements:

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These persons are:

A person who acquired Korean nationality by birth from a Korean father, or from either Korean parent after June 13, 1998.

A person who acquired Korean nationality while under the age of twenty by acknowledgement, concomitant acquisition, reinstatement of nationality, naturalization, or under Article 7 of the Addenda (Special Cases of Acquisition of Nationality for Persons of Maternal Line By Adoption of Jus Sanguinis to Both Lines of Parents).

Koreans who were adopted overseas and automatically lost Korean nationality as a result.

Overseas Koreans 65 years of age or older.

Foreigners who are married to Koreans and acquired Korean nationality from July 2, 2010, or later.

Foreigners who have exceptional talents or have made an outstanding contribution to Korea, as judged by a state committee governing nationality affairs.



There are transitional provisions for those who fit under the first category but had already forfeited one nationality.

Those who failed to make a choice and automatically lost Korean nationality can apply to have it restored before May 4, 2012.

Those who choose Korean nationality have until 2016 to reacquire their foreign nationality.


Note that as of December 2010, an application for dual citizenship can only be made inside the Republic of Korea and requires the applicant to currently hold an F-series visa.[21] This would normally be an F-5 visa (Permanent Residency) or an F-4 visa (for former Korean nationals and their descendants, including Korean adoptees) or F-2 or F-3 visa (for spouses of Korean nationals).
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the thing that sounds like it would completely keep you from getting a korean passport for the time being is the fact you cannot get an f-visa (yet).

i'd definitely do what ttompatz and nathanrutledge advise because they are very knowledgeable about these things.

most of this was copy and pasted from wikipedia fyi.
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
you cannot get dual citizenship as far as i know.

from what i know you can't go to the korean consulate in the usa and get a citizenship for korea without meeting certain stipulations and even then the usa does not recognize dual citizenships so if you hold a us passport and attempt to get another citizenship on us soil you'd have to renounce the us citizenship. anyone more knowledgable than me in this matter feel free to chime in.

as for getting one in rok, they also did not recognize dual citizenships until last year. now a foreigner can get a korean passport without having to renounce their own citizenship if they meet these requirements:


The US DOES recognize dual citizenship. They don't like it, but they recognize it. If you commit a crime or have some legal trouble, you are forbidden from using your alternate citizenship as a shield.

It's the same thing in Korea now, kind of. They just altered the law at the end of 2009, but they are a bit more strict regarding it - who can get it, what they have to do, etc. But again, if you try and use your other nationality to dodge the law of Korea, they'll bust you for it.

There are goods and bad things about both - it depends on the person, their LIFELONG plans, the nationalities involved, etc. Claiming certain citizenships opens a person up to a lifetime of tax liability. For men claiming Korean citizenship, it means military service. For others, it means residency requirements. Lots of factors to consider...
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
The US DOES recognize dual citizenship. They don't like it, but they recognize it. If you commit a crime or have some legal trouble, you are forbidden from using your alternate citizenship as a shield.

It's the same thing in Korea now, kind of. They just altered the law at the end of 2009, but they are a bit more strict regarding it - who can get it, what they have to do, etc. But again, if you try and use your other nationality to dodge the law of Korea, they'll bust you for it.

There are goods and bad things about both - it depends on the person, their LIFELONG plans, the nationalities involved, etc. Claiming certain citizenships opens a person up to a lifetime of tax liability. For men claiming Korean citizenship, it means military service. For others, it means residency requirements. Lots of factors to consider...


yes, that's what i meant that you can't use your other citizenship for diplomatic immunity if you have one as well as how they will make you renounce your current citizenship if you try to get a us citizenship on american soil . it happened to me. when i got my us citizenship years ago they made me denounce my other citizenship.

however, i do know the usa will let you have a second citizenship if you get one out of the country.
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NohopeSeriously



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellehehe wrote:
forgot to write that. I'M A FEMALE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!


You know, there's a female ROTC system in Korea. Smile

And make your life easier by ditching your Korean citizenship.
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theloneleaf



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes, that's what i meant that you can't use your other citizenship for diplomatic immunity if you have one as well as how they will make you renounce your current citizenship if you try to get a us citizenship on american soil .

You can't use your other citizenship for diplomatic immunity in any country. Diplomatic immunity applies to diplomats. Not people with dual citizenship.
Most countries will not help you out if you have dual citizenship anyway, and you're in one of the countries you have citizenship in. This isn't a strange or unusual rule.
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