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L_orna
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Location: Ireland
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 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: Want to change jobs...advice much needed!! |
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Both myself and a friend have been teaching at a hagwon for almost two months now. After doing our best to 'weather it out', we have decided we want to move on instead of spending a year miserable. Numerous factors come into play - the location (there is little or nothing going on where we live), our apartment - we have a persistent roach problem which the manager has been slow to help us with and the lack of any real teaching curriculum at our school. To cut a long story short, we are planning to give in our notice and request a letter of release so we can search for another job somewhere else in Korea.
I guess what we want to know is ..
How difficult is it to obtain a letter of release? is it illegal for our manager to withold it?
Also, what is the period of notice generally given when breaking a contract?
any help would be greatly appreciated 
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Want to change jobs...advice much needed!! |
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| L_orna wrote: |
How difficult is it to obtain a letter of release? is it illegal for our manager to withold it?
Also, what is the period of notice generally given when breaking a contract?
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1. In your situation? Impossible. They are not required to give you a letter of release.
2. Depends on the contract. Read yours.
Prepare new docs and start looking for a new job. The letter of release would be pretty much worthless in your situation anyway since you can't transfer your visa before 6 months baring school closing circumstances. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, it's highly unlikely they'd give you a LOR after 2 months. 6 maybe, but 2 is very unlikely. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Want to change jobs...advice much needed!! |
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| L_orna wrote: |
Both myself and a friend have been teaching at a hagwon for almost two months now. After doing our best to 'weather it out', we have decided we want to move on instead of spending a year miserable. Numerous factors come into play - the location (there is little or nothing going on where we live), our apartment - we have a persistent roach problem which the manager has been slow to help us with and the lack of any real teaching curriculum at our school. To cut a long story short, we are planning to give in our notice and request a letter of release so we can search for another job somewhere else in Korea.
I guess what we want to know is ..
How difficult is it to obtain a letter of release? is it illegal for our manager to withold it?
Also, what is the period of notice generally given when breaking a contract?
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks! |
Don't count on a LOR. Especially if both of you quit at the same time. It is not illegal to withhold a LOR. In fact, it is common practice. You might have to have your visa canceled, and pull a visa run to Japan. Typically, you should give 30 days notice. (Your contract probably says 60 days, but 30 is enough)
Furthermore, don't you think it's unfair to blame the school for your geographic situation? Surely, you knew the location of your placement before you came here. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Want to change jobs...advice much needed!! |
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| L_orna wrote: |
I guess what we want to know is ..
How difficult is it to obtain a letter of release? is it illegal for our manager to withold it?
Also, what is the period of notice generally given when breaking a contract?
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks! |
Your employer is under NO obligation to provide a LOR.
If you have been there less than 6 months you can be assured that giving notice means you won't get paid from then till you leave. (your employer will find all kinds of funny deductions PLUS repayment of your airfare, etc).
You will need to leave Korea (hand in your ARC to passport control on the way out) to cancel your visa.
Then you may return and look for a new job.
Then you will need to do another visa run (probably go to Japan) to get a new E2.
You most likely WILL need a new set of documents for a new visa (so start applying for them now - they will take months to get while you are abroad).
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Want to change jobs...advice much needed!! |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
If you have been there less than 6 months you can be assured that giving notice means you won't get paid from then till you leave. (your employer will find all kinds of funny deductions PLUS repayment of your airfare, etc).
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+1
Forgot to add that in my first post. |
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L_orna
Joined: 29 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice guys. Several teachers I have spoken to don't seem to think its impossible. One guy even changed jobs after four days. Im guessing though this may have made it easier as he didnt even have his ARC card yet. |
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L_orna
Joined: 29 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Also, if we need to apply for new documents, I presume we will only need to get a new background check? However, I'm aware that this could take some time...
Is there anything else in regard to documents that we will need to get reissued? |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| L_orna wrote: |
| Thanks for the advice guys. Several teachers I have spoken to don't seem to think its impossible. One guy even changed jobs after four days. Im guessing though this may have made it easier as he didnt even have his ARC card yet. |
Several teachers you spoke with don't know what they are talking about.
Under new visa laws you shouldnt need new documents but that doesnt mean you won't.
IMO, prepare everything again. After you get them back, start looking for a new place, do a visa run and you are good to do. |
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L_orna
Joined: 29 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... we are keen to move on it, but we are cautious also. We are pretty much skint so cant afford to make any rash decisions!
When assembling documents in the first place, we had to send on a background check and our degree, which were both apostilled.
Aside from that, it was simply just our CV and passport details.
How long can a background check take from abroad?
thanks again.  |
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ibeattheborg
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| How long does a background check take in Ireland? Same as the first time I guess. 1 to 2 weeks. Can you get a family member back home to find out if they can do it for you? Or email your local Garda station where you got the original check from. Do you have an apostiled copy of your degree? If not then you will have to get one from Ireland. There's going to be a lot of postage to and fro I would imagine. Now it has been stated previously that once your Criminal check and Apostiled copy of Degree are on file here with Korean Immigration then you won't need them again. But nobody seems sure about it. Best to have new documents ready if you have to leave for Japan for example and cancel your current E-visa by handing in your ARC on the way out. Try calling Korean Immigration for a better answer. |
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