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Booking: Ladies, how can I avoid it?
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Booking: Ladies, how can I avoid it? Reply with quote

I love Korean nightclubs. I love the performances, the cheap cheap cheap charge (and the fruit & beer they bring you), the ajumas and ajosshis dancing together (cute!) on the slow songs, and more than anything I just love to dance.

And then. . . there's booking. It's awful, degrading, and I want no part in it. Last night I had to scream, scratch, and spit to make the waiter let me go. Is there a better way? A special phrase in Korean, perhaps? 안니애요 doesn't seem to do the trick.

I've been before (often) and never been booked, until last night when I was booked to (what I will call) the Murder Room: Hidden, no other rooms near it, the dirty dish tray cart in front of the door. Trying to pull my arm back and yelling NO doesn't make him let you go, but assaulting the waiter does. Is there a way to NOT do booking without having to resort to violence?
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ssuprnova



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Booking: Ladies, how can I avoid it? Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:
I love Korean nightclubs. I love the performances, the cheap cheap cheap charge (and the fruit & beer they bring you)


Ever wondered who paid for that? And, more importantly, why they paid for it?
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't wonder, I know where the money comes from. But nobody PAYS for booking, they PAY for a sweet table and spread hoping that the girls who come will stay more than 30 seconds, and probably for special attentions and services. . . . I'm just not sure why the waiter thinks its worth his time to drag me & my friend to these rooms to have us turn around and walk out. I'd like to communicate "it's not worth your time, Mr. Waiter." More importantly, no means no, and I'm definitely not going to the scary, hidden room where god knows what awaits.
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, just because booking's become a regular social custom, doesn't mean I have to participate. If it's just impossible to go to a nightclub without a male escort, then I won't go without a male escort. Just throwing it out there - is there a way to avoid it?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:
Also, just because booking's become a regular social custom, doesn't mean I have to participate. If it's just impossible to go to a nightclub without a male escort, then I won't go without a male escort. Just throwing it out there - is there a way to avoid it?


Go to clubs without booking...
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nate1983



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You clearly don't get how things work. There is an implicit understanding that you will follow protocol in those sorts of places, but instead you act like an obnoxious foreigner because you don't have to sit down with them. Either try to develop some cultural awareness, frequent other places, or go back to where you came from.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate1983 wrote:
You clearly don't get how things work. There is an implicit understanding that you will follow protocol in those sorts of places, but instead you act like an obnoxious foreigner because you don't have to sit down with them. Either try to develop some cultural awareness, frequent other places, or go back to where you came from.


Precisely. The reason you get free fruit and drinks is because men have already paid for this with the expectation that you'll at least give them a chance and talk to them. Booking clubs are not a good place to go with your girlfriends and just hang out as a group together. Even if you paid for a set yourselves you'd still be expected to go and meet men. It's just the way it works.

I would recommend the first two of nate1983's suggestions.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
s.tickbeat wrote:
Also, just because booking's become a regular social custom, doesn't mean I have to participate. If it's just impossible to go to a nightclub without a male escort, then I won't go without a male escort. Just throwing it out there - is there a way to avoid it?


Go to clubs without booking...


Exactly........only girls who want to be dragged to men's tables go to booking nightclubs.
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you got free food and drink, and you don't want to follow up with the expected chit-chat?!! You my love are a shameless hussy!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although you deserved to be judged for what you seem to be doing (accepting the alchohal and snacks from men you you already know expect something in return) let me give you some advice instead. If you continue to do it, there wont be a happy ending. You managed to fight off the waiter last night, but eventually some idiot will get pretty cross at you accepting his gifts without recipricating and just take what he wants instead.

Starting going to different clubs.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the typical arrogance of American (and Western) women. "Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie" they'll shout, but they never want to give anything back.

I once had a female friend tell me the best way to get a girl back home. I think it sums up their mentality completely. She was being dead serious when she said "as a guy, you should just tell her 'I don't want to touch you, I just want to give you lots of money.'"
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hostness



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:
I don't wonder, I know where the money comes from. But nobody PAYS for booking, they PAY for a sweet table and spread hoping that the girls who come will stay more than 30 seconds, and probably for special attentions and services. . . . I'm just not sure why the waiter thinks its worth his time to drag me & my friend to these rooms to have us turn around and walk out. I'd like to communicate "it's not worth your time, Mr. Waiter." More importantly, no means no, and I'm definitely not going to the scary, hidden room where god knows what awaits.


Completely ignorant...or a troll. I was reading this and my troll alert went off. In fact, I hope it's a troll, can't believe how oblivious you can get.
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Landros



Joined: 19 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: beware Reply with quote

the "waiter" is not a waiter. he is a pimp. you are engaging in soft prostitution by going to a booking club.

Know what you are getting yourself into. Complementary food and drink is not "nostrings" attached.

I'd love to see some guy try to haul off a girl and she pull out pepper spray.

"Oh you weren't assaulting me?"
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fishy



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The elaborate fruit plate just kills me. It's so showy, like in a bird-of-paradise kind of way. You can picture the "talk" these future fathers give to their sons years from now...

"You know, son...the one thing you've got to understand about women is that they can't resist an artfully arranged fruit plate. Sure there's your apple slice fans and your grape pyramids and those will do the job most of the time. But if you really want to hit a home run, you have to think tropical. I'm talking pineapple, mango, lychee, and maybe even mangosteen. That'll show 'em you've got game. That let's them know you're serious."
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're going to booking clubs and getting irritated when people expect you to participate in booking?

That's like going to an indoor swimming pool and getting irritated if water gets on you.

That's like going to a movie theater and reading a book during the movie, and getting irritated because there's a movie playing.

The booking, OP, is the point of the establishment. If you don't like baseball, don't go to a baseball game.
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