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I'm home, but not getting my pension back
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: I'm home, but not getting my pension back Reply with quote

I really need help with this. I feel helpless since I'm at home and the problem is in Korea.

While in Korea I worked for two different schools. The first one did not my pay my pension at all so I reported them and they paid. So nine months of my pension contribution has been completely paid for. The problem is that I got another job for only two months. They enrolled me in pension, took it out of my paycheck, but they have still not paid their contribution to NPS! I left Korea on June 5 and it is now August 11 and I still haven't been paid because the second company is having "financial troubles" and cannot pay my two months pension. Now they probably have a ton of fines for waiting 2 months to pay it, and I'm scared that they never will. These stupid two months are keeping me back from getting my other whole 9 months contribution which is a lot of money.

I want them to pay it, but I'd rather lose that 190,000 won and just get my 9 months contribution. Do you think they'd do that for me? I called them and they said they're just waiting to get the contribution from the second company.

Please help me Sad I'm so tired of dealing with this hagwon nonsense and it's hell that I have to deal with it from home.
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bigwilly999



Joined: 01 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im having the same problem!
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you simply pay 190,000 to the pension office, then they give you it back with the 9 months Laughing
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, if only that were the case. The problem is the pension office requires the funds to come directly from the employer. The employee's contribution must go to the employer and the employer is to turn that over to the pension office.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Ah, if only that were the case. The problem is the pension office requires the funds to come directly from the employer. The employee's contribution must go to the employer and the employer is to turn that over to the pension office.


How does the pension office know where the funds come from?
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also note the following:

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○ In the past, a voluntarily & continuously insured person had no way to pay delinquent contributions because the NPS� collection rights to his/her contributions expired once the person lost his/her insured status.

○ However, under the new act, a special provision allows a voluntarily & continuously insured person who has already lost his/her insured status to pay the delinquent contributions for 3 years after the payment deadline, which is the same period of the NPS collection right�s effective period. This might result in intensifying the securing of the voluntarily & continuously insured person�s entitlement. - http://english.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/act/act_01.jsp


If an insured person can pay up to 3 years, then surely they don't have to wait for the employer. What if you changed schools? You give that money to the previous employer? Sorry, I can't buy that.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm stuck until they pay it, and I can't understand why they haven't paid it because they're a big rich company and it's a mere 200,000 won. By this point they have incurred 2 months of fees. How is the government not going after them for some tax evasion shit? I don't understand how these kinds of things are tolerated in Korea.

It's so frustrating.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this something you can contact the labor board about?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Ah, if only that were the case. The problem is the pension office requires the funds to come directly from the employer. The employee's contribution must go to the employer and the employer is to turn that over to the pension office.


How does the pension office know where the funds come from?



Bank account number?
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daejeonsv



Joined: 20 Apr 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me once. I was back home getting documents for a new visa and kept waiting and waiting for my pension money. I had a Korean friend call the office on my behalf and was told that my employer was only contributing about 20,000won per month. He had paid the first six in full, but the last six was lacking in a serious way. All of my contributions made it in, he was the one defaulting. The pension office said that because he WAS paying there was nothing they could do since *some* money was still coming in. They also told my friend that my paperwork wasn't on file. When I came back to Korea I (with the help of my friend) asked for a refund for the amount that was in my account and they paid me that very day. Moral of the story, have a Korean help you and hopefully you'll get what is yours.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
koreatimes wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Ah, if only that were the case. The problem is the pension office requires the funds to come directly from the employer. The employee's contribution must go to the employer and the employer is to turn that over to the pension office.


How does the pension office know where the funds come from?



Bank account number?


If what you are saying is true, then that establishes a few things.

You could transfer the money. What then? They have 190,000 RMB, what then? They give you it back? How do they prove it is yours? Wouldn't it make more sense if you sent the money to the account, let them know it's for person with "blah blah passport number" and then have them give it back with the 9 months pay? Or, do they hold on to it and then give 380,000 with the 9 months?

The amount is already calculated, I don't see why only the employer needs to pay, nor do I see how they can have proof the employer is the one putting money into the account.
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Reggie



Joined: 21 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When will you be going back to Korea? Or do you need for me to go into your old school daily with no shirt on and the school's name painted on my chest, requesting they honor the pension obligations? I can do it for a price. Very Happy
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes please.

i need this money. it's over 2 grand that is rightfully mine. if i just got my 9 months contribution and was fucked over by the 2 months i would be extremely happy at this point.

i'm calling the guri office on monday (korea time) to see if they'll just send me the 9 months worth and send me the 2 months whenever they get it. i don't see why they couldn't?

i don't want to end up paying for the pension that my previous hagwon hasn't paid plus all the fines they've incurred.

i don't have plans to return to korea in the near future.

if the guri office doesn't give me my 9 months worth or call up my other employer and force them to pay, im going to call the labor board.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you guys think they'll just give me what's been paid for the first 9 months with the first school?
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigwilly999 wrote:
im having the same problem!


are you in korea or at home? what are you going to do about it?
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