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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: strange university situation. Reply with quote

I have been offered a job at a university. I have never had a interview with this university but I did send in all of the documents for the 3 stages of the screening process.

The semester is suppose to start in a week and I have been asked to 'get' a letter of termination from my current employer, and go to Japan and wait.

I haven't even seen a contract yet, so I don't even know the terms, the terms in the advert were good.

on a scale of 1/10 how strange is this?

I'm not going to name the university but it's not small.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

absolutely do not go to Japan and wait

and I've never heard of a letter of termination.. geez they've got letters for everything over here
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume they mean a letter of release, which is a letter from your current employer releasing you from your visa so the new job can apply for your new visa from immigration.
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Tamada



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This means another teacher has either quit or backed out at the last minute, meaning the university is scrambling before the new semester starts, in just over a week.

The exact same situation happened to a friend of a friend a couple of years ago, and I do know the university's name.

If you want, you can pm me the name and let's see if it is indeed the same university.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had a letter of release you wouldn't need to run to Japan would you??
Couldn't you just transfer it with a LOR?
A lot of university gigs say Uni in the title but are just a standard hagwon job. Beware.
I wouldn't go to Japan to wait without a contract. At that point they've got you by the juevos. What would you do if you are in Japan, paying your own way, and the terms of the contract are awful?
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually, they pay for the flight in this case. I have never had a school send me out of the country expecting me to pay for it. If they are serious about hiring you, then they will foot the bill.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most universities don't foot the bill in my experience. See and sign a contract first would be my advice.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they don't pay for it, then I wouldn't do it. They can give you a place to stay, pay the high security deposit, but they can't get you a plane ticket? Seems rather dodgy.
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Tamada



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
If they don't pay for it, then I wouldn't do it. They can give you a place to stay, pay the high security deposit, but they can't get you a plane ticket? Seems rather dodgy.


Universities don't pay for visa runs.

He shouldn't leave till the uni issues him with the visa insurance number.
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Highwayman



Joined: 22 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving the name of the university might clarify a few things.
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lalartu



Joined: 29 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, you don't need to do a visa run if you have a letter of release and are applying for a new job right away.

i've been here for a few years and (unfortunately) have never been to Japan...

also the university seems a bit disorganized and potentially really crappy. make sure to go through everythign in the contract before you even consider taking this job

the fact that they didn't bother to send you anything and just told you to go to Japan is really really weird...
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They let me know on Wednesday if I have got the job, but expect me to start next Monday, I think the admin office sent the documents the department, they decided they want me and now they will do anything they can to get me there. I think they expect me to do a midnight runner. But I am not going to leave my school without a teacher and if they suggest the visa run thing again I'll tell them how it is..... I'm not going to a place that expects me to betray a former employer that has been good to me.

Is it possible to do my 22 hours at the public school until they get another teacher and work the 9 hours at the university legally? will the visa be a problem?

lalartu wrote:
yeah, you don't need to do a visa run if you have a letter of release and are applying for a new job right away.

i've been here for a few years and (unfortunately) have never been to Japan...

also the university seems a bit disorganized and potentially really crappy. make sure to go through everythign in the contract before you even consider taking this job

the fact that they didn't bother to send you anything and just told you to go to Japan is really really weird...
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not the problem, the problem is I am expected at work at my current job on the 28th.

koreatimes wrote:
Usually, they pay for the flight in this case. I have never had a school send me out of the country expecting me to pay for it. If they are serious about hiring you, then they will foot the bill.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont say the name of the school, but let's just say I'm surprised this university is doing things like this.

Highwayman wrote:
Giving the name of the university might clarify a few things.
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Mr. Peabody



Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: here

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: strange university situation. Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
I have been offered a job at a university. I have never had a interview with this university but I did send in all of the documents for the 3 stages of the screening process.

The semester is suppose to start in a week and I have been asked to 'get' a letter of termination from my current employer, and go to Japan and wait.

I haven't even seen a contract yet, so I don't even know the terms, the terms in the advert were good.

on a scale of 1/10 how strange is this?

I'm not going to name the university but it's not small.


On a scale of 1/10? It's a 10.

IFAIK, university classes don't start until Monday, August 29th.

You better make sure nobody is pulling your chain...

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