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SpiritThatcannotbebroken



Joined: 14 Aug 2011
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Hagwon and a good location Reply with quote

OK,i here a lot of people saying Hagwons are better but I'm Black and even the recruiter sites even say it will probably be a slim chance for me getting in one. I mean it does happen but not that often.And personally I don't mind working in a public school. I would just love to teach in South Korea.

Also i wanted to know a good location to teach in.Personally i don't want to teach in Seoul i want something a bit smaller with beaches and mountains.And yet i still would like to have a social life as well.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well - you will have to try harder and apply more. Expect a lot more first interest and them silence when they get a picture/passport scan.

You best luck will be what I call dead man's boots. Get all your paperwork ready. and I mean ready. No waiting for a check or getting a stamp on something. Your apartment is packed and you can get on a plane tomorrow - ready. Many schools will hire ahead of time but things fall thru with teachers and that. You are there to save the day ready to say "hey I am all ready to go. Yes I can be their in a week."

Well then look at some of the smaller cities - Look for jobs in Daejeon, Daegu, Gwangju, Suwon, and so on. Bigger cities like Seoul or Busan will be a little bit locked out for you.

Most small cities will be comfortable enough for you. Probably enough creature comforts and a social crowd to not go nuts. The smaller cities and towns for a first timer will be difficult. Forget about the beaches. Beaches here in Korea are not like beaches in Thailand or else where. Beaches will only be good for about 4 months of the year. Mountains are mountains. With the beaches and that travel to them on the weekend. Getting around Korea is easy enough.
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SpiritThatcannotbebroken



Joined: 14 Aug 2011
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, what are your thoughts about Incheon and the province of Chungcheongnam. It is lucky for me that I have no interest in teaching in Seoul or anyplace that big. I want a medium size city that doesn�t have 24/7 noise. I can travel to big cities on weekends.

I am planning to apply in September 2012 because I�m still in college right now finishing up my senior year.

As I said before, I doubt I will get in a Hagwon, but what about EPIK. Do you know how hard the process is with them? I was going to apply to GEPIK , before I heard about their financial condition. Do you have any information about applying to school directly? I heard about one person getting in with EPIC in Cheonan , would that be easier or is it best to have a recruiter?

(Yes I fixed this too, because I didn�t reread it all, it was horrible even I was sad when I read it.)


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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you speak as poorly as you write on here, you don't deserve to teach English.
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SpiritThatcannotbebroken



Joined: 14 Aug 2011
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Golf Reply with quote

I cannot figure out how to delete this, so I will just change it. This was a rant to someone to whom I though was rude i.e. Golf. People have been commenting on it as if was addressed to them, I�m sorry if it offended you it was not meant for you. I�m pretty new to this site so if anyone could PM with how to delete this, I would really appreciate it.

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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiritThatcannotbebroken wrote:
Cool i what about Incheon and the province of Chungcheongnam Do also interested me lucky me that i have no interest in living in Seoul i dont favor polution and 24/7 noise.I like the idea of a middle size city that i can live in and maybe travel to the bigger ones on the weekends.

I'm really posity like over a year in advance but i plan on going in September 2012 because i'm in my senior year to get my BA.But i'm getting everything else now.

As said before i doubt i will get in a Hagwon but what about Epik do you know how that program goes .I was going to apply to Gepik to before i heard about their finacila condition.But what about applying to school directly.I heard about one person getting in with epic in Cheonan would that be easier or is it best to have a recruiter


Your English is incomprehensible, and feel free to report me for saying so. That aside, I think I deciphered that you were going to try to get all your documents now, though you won't be applying for a year. Realize that there is a limited timeline on the CBC (six months), so applying now is an absolute waste.
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Skill



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: London

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello SpiritThatCannotbebroken.

As others have indicated, you should pay attention writing. Have a quick check for errors before you submit your post. The mistakes are to numerous to ignore. It does not look like you are a native speaker, nor someone who has been born and/or raised up in a English Speaking Country.

As to the question to your colour, I don't see that to be much of a problem. Just focus on selling yourself. If you going to apply for GEPIK, you should keep in mind you have to fill out a 12 page application and at the end of it a 500 word essay. So be wary of your spelling and grammar mistakes.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP:

If your resume and cover letter are anything like your other writing you have no worry. You won't be getting a job in Korea.

That is aside from the fact that you don't appear to have a degree either (another reason why you can't get a job in Korea - visa requirement).

IF, on the other hand, you can actually write a comprehensible cover letter, compose a resume, come from one of the approved 7 anglophone countries, have your degree and clean CBC then you have a decent chance for employment in Korea inspite of your self.

As to the where, it won't matter.

Focus on the job and not the where. If the where is inconvenient you can get a car/motorbike or move in your 2nd year. If the job is bad you won't last any longer than it takes to earn enough money to get a ticket home.

SpiritThatcannotbebroken wrote:
Take your bad attitude elsewhere. Deserve to teach, who are you the e.s.l. police? If you have nothing productive to say, stay off my thread. Or i will report you.


Oh, and you are free to "report me" for treading on your thread.

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiritThatcannotbebroken wrote:
Take your bad attitude elsewhere. Deserve to teach, who are you the e.s.l. police? If you have nothing productive to say, stay off my thread. Or i will report you.


Spirit - one of the unwritten rules of Dave's is spelling and grammar counts. Other forums and groups like Facebook people will be given more leeway on spelling mistakes, grammar, and that. This is a place where people who are expected to ENGLISH TEACHERS. So we have to be able to spell. Even I make mistakes but you have to try. The same would be expected on a computer forum and expecting people to know the basics of computers.

If you are typing on an Ipad or small device I would recommend to use a computer instead. Little less slap dash. The thing is spelling also shows what kind of person you are. You put effort even a little in and people will see that and more likely respond in kind.

Overall try for a smaller city and do your research. You have a a little while till you graduate - spend that time getting your things in order - paperwork, passport, etc.

Lurk a bit more around here. Read the FAQs and some of the older threads.
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tukmax



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always get a job in Daejeon. I worked there a couple of years ago and there were plenty of Blacks from US/Canada as well as South African blacks working in hagwons.

Not a bad city. I had fun there.
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SpiritThatcannotbebroken



Joined: 14 Aug 2011
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Golf Reply with quote

SpiritThatcannotbebroken wrote:
Take your bad attitude elsewhere. Deserve to teach, who are you the e.s.l. police? If you have nothing productive to say, stay off my thread. Or i will report you.


To everyone that is constantly quoting this. It was in reference to one person, Golf, who was thought being rude. If you�re going to comment on my grammar I'm perfectly ok with that, and wouldn't dare report you for it. I believe in constructive criticism, but the fact is he wasn�t giving any. To all of you who may or may not believe it by my writing; I was born and raised in the United States, from generations of people whom were also born here.

I haven�t applied for any programs yet because it is really too early for that. But I aim to get as much information as possible beforehand. I was just asking about locations because I have done a lot of research on different black people who had trouble being accepted. This is why I posted this and this reasons only. I assure you all that I will be more thoughtful and considerate of my grammar from now on. Which is why I am deleting the comment .So if you could please give information on location, it was I need to know. I know when I need to apply for everything as said before I also still realize that I�m still in school. Thank for the constructive comments and your consideration. ~SpiritThatcannotbebroken~
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Reggie



Joined: 21 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about your grammar. My grammar sucks and I get job offers all of the time and just got a work visa.

As for the black part, I guess all you can do is try and hope for the best. If you try to get a job, your odds of getting one are already higher than if you don't. There was a black couple that used to live in my apartment building in Seoul and they had taught in Korea for a few years. They were a good-looking couple that looked like they could've been Abercrombie & Fitch models or something. Plus, there was another black chick in my neighborhood who was teaching English. She was good looking too. Physical beauty is as important as race, especially with hagwons.

Are you specifically wanting to teach in Korea? If you're open to other countries in Asia, I've read about black teachers in China, including teachers from Nigeria and other countries where English isn't the native language. Even universities there hire Nigerians, so I would think an African-American would be able to get a job in China very easily.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, I wouldn't focus so much on the where (if you are referring to geographic location). You won't have any idea of where "where" is anyway.
Seoul is your best bet but don't rule out rural Korea (small cities of about 1 million people) are often better choices for any number of reasons unless the party factor is your driving reason for coming.

If by where you mean recruiter or school then look at cities like Suwon, Daejon, Daegu, etc. Because of the high demand for everyone to go to Seoul there are often lots of decent jobs in the satellite cities or some of the other cities down south.

Another thing to remember is that the whole country is only 250 miles wide and 250 miles long. Nowhere is that far from anywhere (except at Chuseok when the highways turn into parking lots).

As to "bad" areas of a city... there aren't any. This is NOT the good 'ol US of A where murder is the national sport and muggings are as common as socks. I have no fear walking anywhere in Korea (with the possible exception of along the wire at the N.Korean border/DMZ) at any time of day or night.

Focus on the job.

For recruiters.... use all of them. Repeat every 2 weeks and give EPIK a shot for the spring recruitment.

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aussieb



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane,Australia

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The mistakes are to numerous to ignore." Incorrect use of the bolded word .. should be too
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ironclad80



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Hagwon and a good location Reply with quote

SpiritThatcannotbebroken wrote:
OK,i here a lot of people saying Hagwons are better but I'm Black and even the recruiter sites even say it will probably be a slim chance for me getting in one. I mean it does happen but not that often.And personally I don't mind working in a public school. I would just love to teach in South Korea.

Also i wanted to know a good location to teach in.Personally i don't want to teach in Seoul i want something a bit smaller with beaches and mountains.And yet i still would like to have a social life as well.


i'm not going to comment on your spelling or grammar. i've met a lot of idiots teaching english here. hopefully, you're just not too keen on trying to type perfectly which you hopefully will become once you start teaching english.

some recruiters told me straight up schools don't want black teachers and they have to think of clever ways to tell the teacher he/she was rejected.
on the same token, there are plenty of black teachers here and to your benefit you don't want to live in seoul or a big city. why is that beneficial? because those places are more competitive.

the blonde hair, blue eyes thing is just a stereotype. some of the homeliest people i've ever seen in my entire life teach english here. good luck!
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