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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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 Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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I bought a Samsung i5 laptop a month ago, but having a terrible time typing into it despite being excellent at typing and using computers. I'm finding a lack of or improper responses to my commands while using Windows 7. In my googling, I find many typed with great effort just to get a basic post like this I'm writing, the exact same things as I'm findingittobe.
Do you think Win 7 is over rated or flawed or just not great to run on laptops? If only the cursor didn't jump around and delete what I just typed and I could once again use my skills to fly at the speed I can do as before. Touchfreeze download helps a little, but not a fix to this blunder they invented in the name of moving forward. I think the mouse pad is too large, the cursor is unpredictably crazy, and the keys are too hard and unresponsive. It's apparently both a software and hardware step backwards when work calls,but it a nice leap forward for games and video. This upgrade is the biggest slowdown for me I've experienced since I started 15 years ago. While my flimsy plastic Samsung is a bad choice, Acer, Dell, and other new laptops are also reported to work the same as I'm experiencing. New laptops are proving just plain awful if you are trying to get some work done, and I know, it's not a lack of knowledge or skills issue. Not only does the software constantly goof up, the new keyboards are so stiff you have to put extra effort into your typing as if it were an old manual typewriter where keys don't respond if you don't use some finger power. I'm going sell this junk and try a 1 year old Toshiba M645 for it's more sturdy design and keyboard. |
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Hootsmon
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not particularly computer-savvy, but I've been using PCs since they first started out and find Windows 7 to be the easiest to use...I've had my current laptop for a little under 2 years, it had XP when I bought it but they sent out a W7 upgrade CD soon after.
Anyhoo...I don't have any of the problems you talk about. I do a lot of typing, especially in Microsoft Word, and have never encountered a single one of the issues you mentioned.
I don't know much about the "commands" you mentioned...maybe you're trying to do something more fancy than I usually do. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: Re: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
I bought a Samsung i5 laptop a month ago, but having a terrible time typing into it despite being excellent at typing and using computers. I'm finding a lack of or improper responses to my commands while using Windows 7. In my googling, I find many typed with great effort just to get a basic post like this I'm writing, the exact same things as I'm findingittobe.
Do you think Win 7 is over rated or flawed or just not great to run on laptops? If only the cursor didn't jump around and delete what I just typed and I could once again use my skills to fly at the speed I can do as before. Touchfreeze download helps a little, but not a fix to this blunder they invented in the name of moving forward. I think the mouse pad is too large, the cursor is unpredictably crazy, and the keys are too hard and unresponsive. It's apparently both a software and hardware step backwards when work calls,but it a nice leap forward for games and video. This upgrade is the biggest slowdown for me I've experienced since I started 15 years ago. While my flimsy plastic Samsung is a bad choice, Acer, Dell, and other new laptops are also reported to work the same as I'm experiencing. New laptops are proving just plain awful if you are trying to get some work done, and I know, it's not a lack of knowledge or skills issue. Not only does the software constantly goof up, the new keyboards are so stiff you have to put extra effort into your typing as if it were an old manual typewriter where keys don't respond if you don't use some finger power. I'm going sell this junk and try a 1 year old Toshiba M645 for it's more sturdy design and keyboard. |
What you're complaining about is hardware related. Keyboard, mousepad........nothing to do with Windows 7!!
I don't like typing on my LG laptop either (provided by my work, I'd never buy a Korean laptop!!).
As someone who used XP for about 7 years, then Vista for about a year, then W7 for the last two years, I can safely say that W7 is way and by far the best Windows yet. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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| eamo wrote: |
What you're complaining about is hardware related. Keyboard, mousepad........nothing to do with Windows 7!!
I don't like typing on my LG laptop either (provided by my work, I'd never buy a Korean laptop!!).
As someone who used XP for about 7 years, then Vista for about a year, then W7 for the last two years, I can safely say that W7 is way and by far the best Windows yet. |
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Buy a USB keyboard and mouse and disable the built in ones. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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| SeoulNate wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
What you're complaining about is hardware related. Keyboard, mousepad........nothing to do with Windows 7!!
I don't like typing on my LG laptop either (provided by my work, I'd never buy a Korean laptop!!).
As someone who used XP for about 7 years, then Vista for about a year, then W7 for the last two years, I can safely say that W7 is way and by far the best Windows yet. |
+1
Buy a USB keyboard and mouse and disable the built in ones. |
That makes sense, it's a hardware issue; not W7. Instead of buying and packing a keyboard, I'm going to sell the Samsung shortly and now have a sweet looking Toshiba M645 on it's way. Culture really does influence hardware design. I thought a Korean machine would be the fastest to work on since they are very tech savvy, but I find the Japanese hardware is far superior for functionality, sturdyness, and style. I haven't lived in Japan, but it's clear Japanese is what the Koreans strive to be, but are still in the process of perfecting this idea. Well, you get what you pay for, the Samsung is $100 less than a Toshiba of identical technical specs, but the Toshibas feature much higher quality hardware. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| skip that and get an Asus, not the EePC, one of the higher end ones and you will be happier. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
What you're complaining about is hardware related. Keyboard, mousepad........nothing to do with Windows 7!!
I don't like typing on my LG laptop either (provided by my work, I'd never buy a Korean laptop!!).
As someone who used XP for about 7 years, then Vista for about a year, then W7 for the last two years, I can safely say that W7 is way and by far the best Windows yet. |
+1
Buy a USB keyboard and mouse and disable the built in ones. |
That makes sense, it's a hardware issue; not W7. Instead of buying and packing a keyboard, I'm going to sell the Samsung shortly and now have a sweet looking Toshiba M645 on it's way. Culture really does influence hardware design. I thought a Korean machine would be the fastest to work on since they are very tech savvy, but I find the Japanese hardware is far superior for functionality, sturdyness, and style. I haven't lived in Japan, but it's clear Japanese is what the Koreans strive to be, but are still in the process of perfecting this idea. Well, you get what you pay for, the Samsung is $100 less than a Toshiba of identical technical specs, but the Toshibas feature much higher quality hardware. |
You do realize everything is made in China? The same factory that is cranking out those Toshibas are making Samsungs. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Do you find new Windows 7 laptops more difficult to use? |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
What you're complaining about is hardware related. Keyboard, mousepad........nothing to do with Windows 7!!
I don't like typing on my LG laptop either (provided by my work, I'd never buy a Korean laptop!!).
As someone who used XP for about 7 years, then Vista for about a year, then W7 for the last two years, I can safely say that W7 is way and by far the best Windows yet. |
+1
Buy a USB keyboard and mouse and disable the built in ones. |
That makes sense, it's a hardware issue; not W7. Instead of buying and packing a keyboard, I'm going to sell the Samsung shortly and now have a sweet looking Toshiba M645 on it's way. Culture really does influence hardware design. I thought a Korean machine would be the fastest to work on since they are very tech savvy, but I find the Japanese hardware is far superior for functionality, sturdyness, and style. I haven't lived in Japan, but it's clear Japanese is what the Koreans strive to be, but are still in the process of perfecting this idea. Well, you get what you pay for, the Samsung is $100 less than a Toshiba of identical technical specs, but the Toshibas feature much higher quality hardware. |
You do realize everything is made in China? The same factory that is cranking out those Toshibas are making Samsungs. |
I know. Samsung, Toshiba, and most other things are made in China, but quality varies. China can build very nice high quality stuff such as Apple Ipod when a company outsources it to be built well, but China also mostly builds junk, because their business partners demand it as cheap as cheap gets. Those Asus i5 460m laptops look good with glowing reviews of excellent keyboards and they are low priced like Samsung. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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AsiaESL always has some wacky/interesting posts. I wonder what going out for a beer with him would be like.
Careful on your location comparisons; Toshiba is DESIGNED in either Japan or the target market of the product. The actual parts are MANUFACTURED in China. A good comparison is Apple, who designs their products in the USA but outsources their labor to China. Its fair to comment on culture affecting design, not so much the components. The exception would be the non computer parts that make up a laptop, as these differ from one model to another and drastically affect the overall quality of the machine (for example, using light metals or higher quality plastics to make a machine more durable). |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I got a Samsung i7 and it's crap. I also have Windows 7 and I hate that as well (mainly because it messed with my old stuff). Yes, the computer was made in China.
Better computers are made in Malaysia, as my last one was.
I've turned off the pad and have a wireless mouse going. |
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vDroop
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
I got a Samsung i7 and it's crap. I also have Windows 7 and I hate that as well (mainly because it messed with my old stuff). Yes, the computer was made in China.
Better computers are made in Malaysia, as my last one was.
I've turned off the pad and have a wireless mouse going. |
Dudes.. what? This thread doesn't even make sense.. An i7 is an i7, anywhere... Samsung has nothing to do with this. There are motherbord companies, CPU companies, RAM, PSU, HDD, ect.. The pre-built computers sold by Samsung, LG, Dell.. etc. just use these parts and slap some of their own software on the computer. If you are worried about getting cheap parts in a computer then don't buy a pre-built and just have a computer built for you with your choice of parts. Any hole in the wall Korean computer shop in the country can do this. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| vDroop wrote: |
| DaHu wrote: |
I got a Samsung i7 and it's crap. I also have Windows 7 and I hate that as well (mainly because it messed with my old stuff). Yes, the computer was made in China.
Better computers are made in Malaysia, as my last one was.
I've turned off the pad and have a wireless mouse going. |
Dudes.. what? This thread doesn't even make sense.. An i7 is an i7, anywhere... Samsung has nothing to do with this. There are motherbord companies, CPU companies, RAM, PSU, HDD, ect.. The pre-built computers sold by Samsung, LG, Dell.. etc. just use these parts and slap some of their own software on the computer. If you are worried about getting cheap parts in a computer then don't buy a pre-built and just have a computer built for you with your choice of parts. Any hole in the wall Korean computer shop in the country can do this. |
Agreed. Exactly what is "crap" about your computer? The actual components of your computer are the same for a similar toshiba, acer asus etc. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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The actual components of my computer are not the same as the components of every other computer, that doesn't make sense. Each computer is a collection of different components, none are exactly the same.
As for an i7, I wasn't complaining about it (other than it's the one on the low end), just what I got. I was saying the Samsung part is no good. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
The actual components of my computer are not the same as the components of every other computer, that doesn't make sense. Each computer is a collection of different components, none are exactly the same.
As for an i7, I wasn't complaining about it (other than it's the one on the low end), just what I got. I was saying the Samsung part is no good. |
An i7 920 in a Samsung is the same as an i7 920 in any other computer.
Do you mean the parts? Like frame, cooler, etc.? That would make sense and would be an excellent thing to complain about.
Components are generally referred to actual spec components like cpu, graphics card, ram, hdd etc. that are standard across all platforms.
Parts are all pieces of the computer, but usually refer to non components, such as body, frame, cooler, etc.
Source: Worked for tech support at my college fixing laptops. |
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