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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:35 am Post subject: Foreigners-Only Apartments. Segregation Needed? |
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Seoul City Government to Build Residential Area for Foreigners
SEOUL, May 19 (Yonhap News)
The Seoul city government said Wednesday that it will build a foreigners-only apartment complex inside a public housing development area near Mount Umyeon in the Seocho Ward, southern Seoul. The complex will be on 19,800 square meters of land and consist of 12-story and 4-story apartment buildings with a total of some 400 residences for foreign businessmen here, according to the Seoul Metropolitan Government.
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20040519/300100000020040519173307E2.html
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Good, they can turn it into something similar to the Chinatowns that dot the world. The Weygook quarter of Seoul.  |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Think about this: those areas will probably have most services in English like banking, shopping and the like. It's also another good way to meet expats who speak English and such. I'm SURE some of you would gladly move to such areas if you had the chance. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| sadsac wrote: |
| Good, they can turn it into something similar to the Chinatowns that dot the world. The Weygook quarter of Seoul. |
Thought that was Haebangcheon? |
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Squid
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| No Peppermint, it's Hongdae on the weekend. |
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The Evil Clown
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the Korean translation of Kristallnacht? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| Think about this: those areas will probably have most services in English like banking, shopping and the like. It's also another good way to meet expats who speak English and such. I'm SURE some of you would gladly move to such areas if you had the chance. |
True and it's also good for the landlords because such areas command a premium. That is a nice area, though. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| Think about this: those areas will probably have most services in English like banking, shopping and the like. It's also another good way to meet expats who speak English and such. I'm SURE some of you would gladly move to such areas if you had the chance. |
NOT. Really, RR had is right and this is an attempt at segregation. Why? I don't think that the planners have put much thought into what foreign residents want. I believe, and this is me, that most foriegn residents would like to live among other Koreans. Building a foreign ghetto doesn't make sense. It says too things. First that our society is racist and we don't want other foreigners living near us bring down our property values and distrubing the cocoon of Koreanhood. And secondly it says we don't think foreinger can hack our way of living. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| weatherman wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| Think about this: those areas will probably have most services in English like banking, shopping and the like. It's also another good way to meet expats who speak English and such. I'm SURE some of you would gladly move to such areas if you had the chance. |
NOT. Really, RR had is right and this is an attempt at segregation. Why? I don't think that the planners have put much thought into what foreign residents want. I believe, and this is me, that most foriegn residents would like to live amoung other Koreans. Building a foreign ghetto doesn't make sense. It says too things. First that our society is racist and we don't want other foreigners living near us bring down our property values and distrubing the cocoon of Koreanhood. And secondly it says we don't think foreinger can hack our way of living. |
That could be. It could also be projection. Koreans abroad usually prefer to live among other Koreans and it is natural for them to assume that Westerners in Korea would similarly prefer to live among other Westerners. |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: SYD
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Great point from dogbert, and this is a very likely possibility.
God knows I've seen the way Koreans like to clump around like hair in a showerdrain when overseas..
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| jaebea wrote: |
Great point from dogbert, and this is a very likely possibility.
God knows I've seen the way Koreans like to clump around like hair in a showerdrain when overseas..
jae. |
Thanks, jae...I wasn't meaning to criticize either. I would prefer to read a positive meaning into this (assuming this development pans out, which I doubt it will). Frankly, I expect that there are a goodly number of expat executives who, upon being sent to Korea, would be glad to live in environment where you can get simple things done without having to know Korean or have a 24/7 "handler".
Just look at places like the Frasier Suites. |
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kylehawkins2000
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| THere are lots of these places that already exist. I don't think it's segregation, they're simply marketing towards the expense account type people. Have you seen any of these places? Many of them are around 10 million won a month. Look in the Korean herald classifieds and you'll find 'serviced apartments' for rent. They are all marketed towards business people and hugely expensive. It's pretty much like living in a 5 star hotel. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: yes |
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I won't live in some ghetto.
They not only assume no foreigners can speak Korean, and function on a daily basis in Korea, but also that we don't want to. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
I won't live in some ghetto.
They not only assume no foreigners can speak Korean, and function on a daily basis in Korea, but also that we don't want to. |
Well, there is still freedom of choice for those of us who want to live like that. It's not as though we're wearing yellow stars.
I'm as negative as anyone on Korea(ns), but I still can't read a bad motive here. |
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Kristsoy
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: and |
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| and how much are these gonna be for rent 400 million dollars a month, probably. the cost to buy a crap apt. here on the 29th floor is more than a 15 bedroom house costs on the ocean on canada, think people |
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