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jammo
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 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: Adult jobs and split shifts |
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is it worth it?
I am considering making the move to adult teaching and using an entry level adult academy job as a stepping stone to a Uni position or a non-split shift job at an adult academy.
Any ideas? I have no MA (yet) but a couple of years elementary & middle school experience |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Adult jobs and split shifts |
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NO.
Network to find a lead to a uni job. You won't find it doing adult 1-1 splits and it won't mean anything on your resume.
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jammo
Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the response. |
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SeoulMan6
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| I think adult classes are always split shifts because adults work. So classes usually run before work, at lunch, or after work (i.e. split). |
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jammo
Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| Seoulman - that was my thought previously too but since then I have met a couple of teachers that work straight through |
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Zyzyfer
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Really busy adult academies in the right areas (Gagnam, Jongno) can offer block shifts, yeah. You'll still have an offbeat day (up early OR working late) but a good, locked in block is pretty sweet.
However, like ttompatz, I don't think it's a good segue into a university gig. Sure, it looks better than Wonderland Gimpo on a resume, but not by all that much. |
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jammo
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer and ttompatz - if I fail to find a uni gig soon I will need a backup idea. what would you consider a good segue into a university gig?
Thanks |
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Zyzyfer
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Uh, an MA? 
Teaching adults will pay the bills and be good practice for small groups of adults but uni jobs are about networking, right place right time, qualifications, and plain old luck. I don't think any of the other teaching areas really line up with it.
Take me, for instance. Been here 10 years and have done lots of different stuff, but I still can't get a uni gig because I have no MA or uni experience.  |
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oldtactics
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Small town colleges will hire BAs with a year of experience.
If you're willing to live outside the major cities, you'll likely find something.
Zyzyfer, no offence but after 10 years, I think you're doing something wrong. The unis in Busan hire people with 3 years of experience, even if they've been working at hagwons. You don't need uni experience to get into lower level colleges & unis if you've been working here for 10 years. |
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jammo
Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer - Im sorry to hear that but thanks for the idea - yes I am aware of the MA issue
oldtactics - Thank you too. smaller towns might be on the agenda!
Have a good weekend everyone |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Adult jobs and split shifts |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| jammo wrote: |
| is it worth it? |
NO.
Network to find a lead to a uni job. You won't find it doing adult 1-1 splits and it won't mean anything on your resume.
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well, i was doing a split working in gangnam, way after i had come here, and I made good coin, and I taught the LG people because the staff at the Gangnam school thought I was dilligent and a good worker. Ever since then, all my job interviews, I mentioned this, and I got the job. Depends where and who.
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION is really true |
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Illysook
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| I invested in the CELTA course this summer and I'm working the split shifts at an adult hagwon this year. My apartment is miniscule and the money is coming out of my very modest paycheck. You have to work a ridiculous number of hours to earn more than the minimum salary that is stated in your contract and if you don't like working until 10 or so p.m. and then having to be back at work at 6:30 a.m. you will have a very long year...as will I. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| jammo wrote: |
| Seoulman - that was my thought previously too but since then I have met a couple of teachers that work straight through |
Who do they teach? I taught adults from 9am-11am, then kids 3-6, and middle school from 6-8 (but only 4 days a week, so it wasn't as bad as it seems).
The main problem with split-shifts is that you often feel prisoner to the local area. You can't travel too far out. So, get a 4 day split-shift schedule. If possible, try to end the 4th day at 5pm or earlier and start the 1st day in the afternoon. A break from Thursday 5pm to Monday 12pm off isn't that bad in exchange for a crappy split-shift schedule.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Illysook wrote: |
| I invested in the CELTA course this summer and I'm working the split shifts at an adult hagwon this year. My apartment is miniscule and the money is coming out of my very modest paycheck. You have to work a ridiculous number of hours to earn more than the minimum salary that is stated in your contract and if you don't like working until 10 or so p.m. and then having to be back at work at 6:30 a.m. you will have a very long year...as will I. |
Also, there's a chance you have to pay for your own apartment. But the OT covered that. Which was my YBM experience.
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Tigerstyleone
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Its totally worth it as long as you live in the Center of Seoul. |
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