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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Question about obtaining Education Degree. Reply with quote

Those who came over here and taught, then got a B.Ed later on. What's the best way to do it? I had a lot of money problems and stress when I went to uni. Long story, short, my marks ended up being average. Some really high and some really low. Theoretically, these programs would demand high marks from an undergrad degree. Also, my degree is a BBA. Anyways, I want to hear some feedback on uni programs that can accept me. I will have a few years experience teaching in public schools here, though it's not the same. I can go to school in North America or in some other place like New Zealand or do part of it online. I don't care what kind of rep the school has, so long as I can get certified. Mostly, I'd just want to teach abroad in foriegn countries anyways. It would prob be a couple of years before I get around to doing this.

Just want some advice from people who have done this or will do this. My academic record scares me the most. But I am hoing there are ways around it.
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smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went back to Canada and got my B.Ed after teaching in Korea for a few years. I think that it was my teaching experience in Korea that really helped me get accepted to both of the universities that I applied to. You don't have to have a super high gpa to get into a B.Ed program.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about obtaining Education Degree. Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Those who came over here and taught, then got a B.Ed later on. What's the best way to do it? I had a lot of money problems and stress when I went to uni. Long story, short, my marks ended up being average. Some really high and some really low. Theoretically, these programs would demand high marks from an undergrad degree. Also, my degree is a BBA. Anyways, I want to hear some feedback on uni programs that can accept me. I will have a few years experience teaching in public schools here, though it's not the same. I can go to school in North America or in some other place like New Zealand or do part of it online. I don't care what kind of rep the school has, so long as I can get certified. Mostly, I'd just want to teach abroad in foriegn countries anyways. It would prob be a couple of years before I get around to doing this.

Just want some advice from people who have done this or will do this. My academic record scares me the most. But I am hoing there are ways around it.


There are a couple ways to do it.

Get a post grad B.Ed. It makes use of the common courses in your undergrad and usually completes in 3-4 semesters. They usually have a higher GPA requirement than a full-B.Ed.

Return and to a complete B.Ed. 3-4 years full time study with student teaching practicums as well.

If you are from the states, look up (google) PRAXIS and alternative routes to teacher certification.

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waseige1



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: abcte.org Reply with quote

There is an online program at abcte.org for the states.

Just read carefully and insure what you want to teach is accepted in the state you want to teach it.

It has limited acceptance across the states.

I also might add, their tests are not easy. They are VERY hard.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'm just looking for something that lets me teach in foriegn countries. Asia or wherever that's wants Teacher certification. My goal wouldn't be to be a teacher back in Canada. Don't know if you should say that in admissions interviews. I do have some high mark courses that could be transferred. I think a mark of "C" or higher makes a course eligible for transfer. I was hoping for the one or two year program and not having to do my whole 4 years over again. Though if I have enough credits with decent marks that could transfer, prob wouldn't have to do 4 years. I've heard of some Canadian teachers going to New Zealand to study as it was easier to get in to a school. Not as competitive?

Over all I'm a "C" or "C-" average. Not because of lack of intelligence but due to money problems and a lot of other stresses in my life at that time. Working part time jobs, etc. I think many Ed programs require a "C+" or "B-" minimum entrance. But again, my experience and maturity might over ride these. That's really the 64 million dollar question for me and why I wanted to know what other users here have experienced.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I had heard of some University from Ontario that does online and can certify you in Ontario. I'll be darned if I can't remember what the exact details were. This was 2 or 3 years ago I read about it on here.
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waseige1



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Thanks guys. I'm just looking for something that lets me teach in foriegn countries. Asia or wherever that's wants Teacher certification.


That is exactly why I am doing the abcte.org certification. I don't know that I'll ever use it in the states.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waseige1 wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Thanks guys. I'm just looking for something that lets me teach in foriegn countries. Asia or wherever that's wants Teacher certification.


That is exactly why I am doing the abcte.org certification. I don't know that I'll ever use it in the states.


Do you know for sure it'll be recognized in foriegn countries? Hong Kong, Taiwan, Middle East, ect? International schools in other countries?
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smurfetta



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a post-degree B.Ed and found that I was a much better student than I was during my previous degree. It helped that I was part of a cohort. I really enjoyed my B.Ed program way more than my first degree.

I was told in my interview that I should consider teaching in international schools when I finished. I even had an option to do one of my practicums overseas.

I looked into studying in Australia and New Zealand. There are two recruiting agencies that help Canadians get into universities down under.

www.canteach.net
www.teach.ca

I considered this option but decided that it would be much cheaper to do it at home. Plus, now I have the option of teaching at home or abroad.
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smurfetta



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Also, I had heard of some University from Ontario that does online and can certify you in Ontario. I'll be darned if I can't remember what the exact details were. This was 2 or 3 years ago I read about it on here.


There shouldn't be such a program anywhere in Canada. I could be wrong but B.Ed programs are very traditional and require students to take their courses on-campus. That being said, I did take one course online.
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waseige1



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
waseige1 wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Thanks guys. I'm just looking for something that lets me teach in foriegn countries. Asia or wherever that's wants Teacher certification.


That is exactly why I am doing the abcte.org certification. I don't know that I'll ever use it in the states.


Do you know for sure it'll be recognized in foriegn countries? Hong Kong, Taiwan, Middle East, ect? International schools in other countries?


Do I know for sure. No. Life has few guarantees.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian citizen and wanting to pick up a post grad B.Ed then places like VIU offer a decent option and you would qualify for the "domestic student" rate rather than paying the fees as an international student.

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/postbaccalaureatefulltime.asp
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/PostBaccalaureateEducationFees.asp

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/

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nikki15



Joined: 02 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you prefer to do your B.Ed back in Canada I suggest applying to Lakehead. It's further up north in Ontario so it doesn't get as many applicants. Therefore their admission standards are lower. Most Teachers Colleges in Ontario expect at least a 70% average, and they take your top 10 credits. Look at how much the school weighs your grades vs. your experience profile. Apply to those that weigh the experience profile higher.

I do believe it tends to be easier to get into B.Ed programs in Australia, and I have known a couple people who have gone there and loved it.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Canadian citizen and wanting to pick up a post grad B.Ed then places like VIU offer a decent option and you would qualify for the "domestic student" rate rather than paying the fees as an international student.

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/postbaccalaureatefulltime.asp
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/PostBaccalaureateEducationFees.asp

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/

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It is possible for international students to pick up certification via Canadian programs, no?
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smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Canadian citizen and wanting to pick up a post grad B.Ed then places like VIU offer a decent option and you would qualify for the "domestic student" rate rather than paying the fees as an international student.

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/postbaccalaureatefulltime.asp
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/PostBaccalaureateEducationFees.asp

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/

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VIU is a good choice. They have the least amount of pre-requisites for admissions that I have seen when I was researching schools. Plus, there is no interview (unless they have changed things from when I applied). Also, the tuition fees are lower than UBC and UVic.
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