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Moving back to Korea with a baby?

 
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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Moving back to Korea with a baby? Reply with quote

Ok, kind of a long story. I was living in Korea, met my fiance there, and I am now pregnant with our first child. He is from Cameroon but is living in Korea and is studying for his PH.D. there. I had to leave Korea on July 1st when I was 8 weeks pregnant because my visa expired and at the time we thought it was best for me to come home and prepare a home for us here. We tried to get married before I left, but because of the complete incompetence/indifference of the staff at the Cameroon consulate, we were not able to. My fiance was supposed to come visit in August but he was denied a tourist visa because the person who interviewed him said he didn't have enough social ties in Korea. I will be filing the paperwork for a fiance visa within the next two weeks, but I now realize it will probably be 6 months to a year before we will see each other again. Our baby is due in February and it is breaking my heart that he probably won't be able to be here for the birth. I'm now beginning to consider moving back to Korea with the baby, whether on a tourist visa or finding a way for my fiance and I to get married so we can stay on his visa, until our paperwork is finished.

Anyway, just wondering, from those of you who have children, how do you feel about their safety, the standard of healthcare there, the quality of childcare you were able to find, etc? Our child will be biracial, which raises even more concerns for me. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be up against it with neither you or your fiance being Korean.

You or him speak much Korean?

As for the baby being biracial.....that won't mean much until school age....and hopefully won't even be an issue then.


Your fiance was denied a tourist visa to your home country because he didn't have enough social ties in Korea? Have you got that right?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Your fiance was denied a tourist visa to your home country because he didn't have enough social ties in Korea? Have you got that right?


It makes sense. They want to make sure he has something to come back to in Korea and isn't going to overstay his visa.
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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
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Your fiance was denied a tourist visa to your home country because he didn't have enough social ties in Korea? Have you got that right?


Uh, yeah, I have that right.
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Landros



Joined: 19 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my wife is Korean but we had our 2 children here in Korea. I was very satisfied with the care she got during both births. both were C-sections. Our son was born at Samsung Cheil Hospital and daughter at a different hospital near Buchon since we were living at a different apartment by then. I'm sure the health care is much cheaper than the States and that the little Korean you need is of no relevance. Doctors and Nurses use English rather well or at least have someone on that would help.

The fact that your baby will be non Korean really makes no difference. Korean caregivers will give care.

Some weird things though. You can share a hospital room with a bunch of other women and the husband usually sleeps over. so with relatives visiting rooms can get pretty chaotic. We sprung for a private room.

Good luck getting all your paper work sorted.
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Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I had our baby at the Hangang University hospital in Guri. It was top notch. Child care is outrageously expensive from what I've heard. My Canadian buddy had his daughter in a child care place and she was sick 24/7/365.

Koreans have a little different idea of what 'child care' entails. Remember you are coming to a country that allows babies to sit in their mothers lap in the front seat of a car. Good luck with that.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you should be okay in Korea.

The only thing I would be concerned about is that you cannot get Korean health insurance without a job and without Korean insurance Korean health care can be quite expensive. I've read one story where they charged a U.S. businessman 6 figures (dollars) for some basic care with the explanation that he would have had to pay that much in the U.S.

But, if you have Korean health insurance, then yes, you should be able to get good care. And, with a little money, life in Korea is just fine. I don't think you would have much in the way of problems.
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alice_w



Joined: 10 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a forum for expat parents in Korea. Perhaps try it:
http://expatparents.50.forumer.com/
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Lolimahro



Joined: 19 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving back to Korea with a baby? Reply with quote

pangaea wrote:
Anyway, just wondering, from those of you who have children, how do you feel about their safety, the standard of healthcare there, the quality of childcare you were able to find, etc? Our child will be biracial, which raises even more concerns for me. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.


It depends on where you are coming from. I come from the U.S., have lived here for over 2 years with my family now and also have had my son in Korean daycare for almost that whole time. Here has been my experience:

(note: I use '~' to mean 'basically equal to')

Cost of Korean Childcare < Cost of U.S. Childcare (by a LOT)

Quality of Korean Childcare ~ Cost of U.S. Childcare (that is, it depends on the center, but we have had a good experience with two different centers thus far).

Cost of Korean health care for children < Cost of U.S. health care for children (by a LOT)

Quality of Korean health care for children ~ quality of U.S. health care for children (it depends on the doctor)

Ease of finding services in English can be varied depending on your location. I live in rural-ish Incheon but have still managed to find an English speaking doctor for myself and my son, both of whom are graduates of Yonsei Medical School and have extensive experience in their fields. In Seoul it was easier than it has been out here but we have been blessed.

We have never found daycare with teachers who are fluent in English, although some do exist (especially in Itaewon I've heard of at least one public center where the staff speaks English). However, I've learned a lot of Korean through my direct dealings with Korean daycares and the teachers have been very kind and patient with me. When I have a problem that I just can't handle myself because of my language ability, I ask a friend to help me out (and try to return the favor ^^)

Also, with regard to your child being biracial - if neither you nor your husband are Korean, I don't know that it should be a problem. Your kid may very well be treated just like any other foreign kid (but that is just my personal guess, not based on any direct evidence).

Anyhow, I second alice_w's recommendation about the Expat Parents Forum. There's a lot of people who have had a lot of experience raising kids in Korea. There's a lot of info up there and people are pretty good about responding to your concerns right away.

Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do!
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freddy teacher



Joined: 01 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please dont wear a baby backpack..despite what koreans think, it's never a good idea to wear a human as a backpack and let their head hit poles and passing people on the subway...
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