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Kuros
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: Americans rate Fed gov't worst, computer industry best |
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Americans rate industry and gov't
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Americans view the computer industry the most positively and the federal government the least positively when asked to rate 25 business and industry sectors. All five of the top-rated sectors this year are related to either computers or food.
The results range from a +62 net positive rating for the computer industry to a -46 net positive rating for the federal government. |
The Fed gov't ranks below both banking and the legal field. (Go to the link for graphs)
With the gov't facing necessary budget cuts down the road, is Obama's election the watershed of big gov't liberalism before the tide washes back and administration is gradually given back to the States?
Let's hope so. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Americans rate Fed gov't worst, computer industry best |
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| Kuros wrote: |
Americans rate industry and gov't
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Americans view the computer industry the most positively and the federal government the least positively when asked to rate 25 business and industry sectors. All five of the top-rated sectors this year are related to either computers or food.
The results range from a +62 net positive rating for the computer industry to a -46 net positive rating for the federal government. |
The Fed gov't ranks below both banking and the legal field. (Go to the link for graphs)
With the gov't facing necessary budget cuts down the road, is Obama's election the watershed of big gov't liberalism before the tide washes back and administration is gradually given back to the States?
Let's hope so. |
Obama's election the watershed of big government liberalism? Please... Look at Dubya for expansion of government (most notably the DoD's budget shooting up and the creation of that disaster known as DHS).
What about Obama's presidency represents big government liberalism? Health care "reform"? Anything else? The lame stimulus? GM's bail-out? I'd say those are half-ass attempts at big government liberalism. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Americans rate Fed gov't worst, computer industry best |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
Americans rate industry and gov't
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Americans view the computer industry the most positively and the federal government the least positively when asked to rate 25 business and industry sectors. All five of the top-rated sectors this year are related to either computers or food.
The results range from a +62 net positive rating for the computer industry to a -46 net positive rating for the federal government. |
The Fed gov't ranks below both banking and the legal field. (Go to the link for graphs)
With the gov't facing necessary budget cuts down the road, is Obama's election the watershed of big gov't liberalism before the tide washes back and administration is gradually given back to the States?
Let's hope so. |
Obama's election the watershed of big government liberalism? Please... Look at Dubya for expansion of government (most notably the DoD's budget shooting up and the creation of that disaster known as DHS).
What about Obama's presidency represents big government liberalism? Health care "reform"? Anything else? The lame stimulus? GM's bail-out? I'd say those are half-ass attempts at big government liberalism. |
Um, Obama has increased spending in every area Bush did, expanded government agencies (notably the TSA), gave far more in stimulus to his banker friends than even Bush, kept the wars going and started new ones.
He has literally spent more and put the public on the hook for more money than all other presidents before him combined... |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Americans rate Fed gov't worst, computer industry best |
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Um, Obama has increased spending in every area Bush did, expanded government agencies (notably the TSA), gave far more in stimulus to his banker friends than even Bush, kept the wars going and started new ones.
He has literally spent more and put the public on the hook for more money than all other presidents before him combined... |
Ok, I will correct myself. You're right but I don't think those are examples of "big government liberalism", just big government. The examples I gave for Bush don't qualify either I admit. What DOES fit is that craptastic prescription drug entitelment, the epitome of Republican hypocriscy. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| By the way, federal government employment is historically low (when compared to the entire US work force and our GDP). Contractors and government programs, on the other hand, are another story... |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| By the way, federal government employment is historically low (when compared to the entire US work force and our GDP). Contractors and government programs, on the other hand, are another story... |
Really?
(http://krugman-in-wonderland.blogspot.com/2010/12/uh-i-believe-federal-employment-trend.html)
(http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/08/~/media/Images/Reports/2010/wm2979_chart2.ashx?w=500&h=790&as=1) |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| By the way, federal government employment is historically low (when compared to the entire US work force and our GDP). Contractors and government programs, on the other hand, are another story... |
Really?
(http://krugman-in-wonderland.blogspot.com/2010/12/uh-i-believe-federal-employment-trend.html)
(http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/08/~/media/Images/Reports/2010/wm2979_chart2.ashx?w=500&h=790&as=1) |
Yes, really
What's interesting in that chart is the biggest growth in federal government workers is in the legislative branch (doubled since 1962). |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| And those numbers are going to most definitely fall this year (and probably next year too). Many federal agencies currently have hiring freezes and most likely will through FY12 (asssuming Congress and Obama don't undergo some wacky 180 in their policies). |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:04 am Post subject: |
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With the gov't facing necessary budget cuts down the road, is Obama's election the watershed of big gov't liberalism before the tide washes back and administration is gradually given back to the States?
Let's hope so. |
Necessary? Necessary? Um, I am not 100% sure you understand the meaning of that word. You would be right if we accepted the right-wing definition of the crappy situation we find ourselves in. Not all of us have turned off our brains. Some of us remember when taxes (revenues) were a heck of a lot higher and the republic was doing just dandy. Just because Fox says historically low taxes should be even lower doesn't mean it is true.
There is a chance (and daily a diminishing chance, I will admit) that the people will rise up and string a few libertarian Wall Street types to the nearest lamp post. It can happen.
There was a movie way back when where Rachel Welch's dad was strung up by the neck to some dessicated tree. He was dangling there, jerking and twitching. She ran up and jerked down on his legs, breaking his neck, so he could die. I don't think I would do a Wall Street dude like that. I think I'd let him slowly strangle. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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With the gov't facing necessary budget cuts down the road, is Obama's election the watershed of big gov't liberalism before the tide washes back and administration is gradually given back to the States?
Let's hope so. |
Necessary? Necessary? Um, I am not 100% sure you understand the meaning of that word. You would be right if we accepted the right-wing definition of the crappy situation we find ourselves in. Not all of us have turned off our brains. Some of us remember when taxes (revenues) were a heck of a lot higher and the republic was doing just dandy. Just because Fox says historically low taxes should be even lower doesn't mean it is true. |
Any realistic plan to face our deficit will combine tax increases with spending cuts. I could post a hundred links from non-partisan sources that restate this, but its a bunch of math and it would disagree with MSNBC and I have better things to do. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a chance (and daily a diminishing chance, I will admit) that the people will rise up and string a few libertarian Wall Street types to the nearest lamp post. It can happen. |
Ooh, death threats against libertarians (and falsely associating them with Wall Street). On the one hand, so disgusting and hateful; on the other hand, how liberal. |
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bucheon bum
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use of Private Contractors Doesn't Save Money
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WASHINGTON � Despite a widespread belief that contracting out services to the private sector saves the federal government money, a new study suggests just the opposite � that the government actually pays more when it farms out work.
The study found that in 33 of 35 occupations, the government actually paid billions of dollars more to hire contractors than it would have cost government employees to perform comparable services. On average, the study found that contractors charged the federal government more than twice the amount it pays federal workers. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| And those numbers are going to most definitely fall this year (and probably next year too). Many federal agencies currently have hiring freezes and most likely will through FY12 (asssuming Congress and Obama don't undergo some wacky 180 in their policies). |
I hope so. I expect that spending cuts will start to make real progress on slimming the Federal workforce. |
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