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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: After first day I see what ppl where talking about.... |
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When dealing with young kids.
Man I have 1 class that is just a nightmare. 10 boys and 2 girls. The boys didnt listen to a thing I said and was loud as hell. Only people that listened and actually attempted to do their work was the 2 girls in the room.
I have another class that is a handfull but not as bad as that class.
Another class is ok.
Then I have like 3 good classes.
I couldnt imagine having all classes like the first one I described.
How do you all handle / cope with this? |
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Setaro
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: After first day I see what ppl where talking about.... |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
When dealing with young kids.
Man I have 1 class that is just a nightmare. 10 boys and 2 girls. The boys didnt listen to a thing I said and was loud as hell. Only people that listened and actually attempted to do their work was the 2 girls in the room.
I couldnt imagine having all classes like the first one I described.
How do you all handle / cope with this? |
By not working in a Hagwon. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Class of 12 loud uninterested kids > 30 loud uninterested kids
Naw but I enjoy my hours. 2-8 (3-8 teaching). My last class is a class of 3 and they all are quiet and wanted to learn! Awesome class! Its just 1-2 of my 6 classes are not acting proper. |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| By not working in a Hagwon. |
Yeah so setaro would rather work in a ps with 40 screaming children not listening to a word you say. Think 10 boys are loud? Try a class with 20 or more |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Teaching is a tough job, with a variety of skills being called upon -- it isn't something that folks can just up and start doing. There is a huge learning curve, especially if one wants to be anything more than mediocre.
It isn't your fault that you were hired to do something that you do not yet possess the skills and talents to actually do. It is your fault, however, if you do not develop those needed skills and talents. There are lots of things you can read that will give advice on how to correct these problems. Here's a place to start:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=classroom+management+strategies+for+elementary+ESL+students |
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Setaro
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| By not working in a Hagwon. |
Yeah so setaro would rather work in a ps with 40 screaming children not listening to a word you say. Think 10 boys are loud? Try a class with 20 or more |
Students generally behave better at school than they do at the Hagwons for a start. I've had classes of 35 and they aren't a problem, and are well behaved. It does also help that in a PS you should have a Korean teacher in the room at all times, who, unless they are inept, should be helping with discipline at bare minimum.
I've never even considered working in a Hagwon for a single second; maintaining discipline with children (who've already spent half the day in mandatory education) who probably don't want to be there on your own is just too stressful and draining.
I've met over a dozen people who work in Hagwons and they all dislike their jobs, with some outright hating their work. Yet the 30 or so PS teachers I've met all like their jobs. Sure, some have problems, but they're a long long way off from saying they don't know they're gonna get through the day. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Worksheets....lots of worksheets. |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| 2 years in PS and 2 years at hakwons, I wouldn't go back to a PS for anything. My coteacher was never to be seen, and the students never listened. I feel much more respected at my hakwon. I guess you didn't meet the 120 teachers that got f'd over by SMOE or the 300 teachers that got f'd over by GEPIK. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| It's very simple, you're unqualified to do your job. The fact that you have kids on task is more a testimony to the kids then any skills you have. If you're really serious about teaching go home and get qualified. If you're here for the 'experience' then perhaps ask to observe a 'teachers'' class and see what skills they use for crowd control. But seriously what did you expect!! Kids are kids where ever you go, they're going to try it on. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: Re: After first day I see what ppl where talking about.... |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
10 boys and 2 girls. The boys didn't listen to a thing... Only people that listened and actually attempted to do their work was the 2 girls .
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50% of boys here are crap. They could set the place on fire, and it would be okay because they're boys.
Girls seem like angels. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| oldtrafford wrote: |
| It's very simple, you're unqualified to do your job. The fact that you have kids on task is more a testimony to the kids then any skills you have. If you're really serious about teaching go home and get qualified. If you're here for the 'experience' then perhaps ask to observe a 'teachers'' class and see what skills they use for crowd control. But seriously what did you expect!! Kids are kids where ever you go, they're going to try it on. |
Because obviously it's the teacher's fault. There are never bad, unruly kids in the world. |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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I had a grade one class today, who refused to do their homework. So, I made everyone who didn't do their homework stand infront of the VP office with their hands up between classes.
After lunch break everyone had turned in their homework. |
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Kennyftw
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| oldtrafford wrote: |
| It's very simple, you're unqualified to do your job. The fact that you have kids on task is more a testimony to the kids then any skills you have. If you're really serious about teaching go home and get qualified. If you're here for the 'experience' then perhaps ask to observe a 'teachers'' class and see what skills they use for crowd control. But seriously what did you expect!! Kids are kids where ever you go, they're going to try it on. |
This is a load of crap. I have a teaching license and studied for 4 years how to be a teacher. But there's always one class where the kids just won't listen to your instructions--OR--you spend an inordinate amount of time trying to get them to focus and it starts to detract from your lesson and becomes a hindrance.
I wish the PC world would go sing kumbaya in a corner so the rest of us could proclaim the truth, which is, sometimes kids are JUST BAD. There's no other reason. They're just BAD. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
| oldtrafford wrote: |
| It's very simple, you're unqualified to do your job. The fact that you have kids on task is more a testimony to the kids then any skills you have. If you're really serious about teaching go home and get qualified. If you're here for the 'experience' then perhaps ask to observe a 'teachers'' class and see what skills they use for crowd control. But seriously what did you expect!! Kids are kids where ever you go, they're going to try it on. |
Because obviously it's the teacher's fault. There are never bad, unruly kids in the world. |
I would say over 95% of the time it is, indeed, the teacher's fault...or the fault of the previous teacher, which still makes it A teacher's fault. One can inherit a bad class from a prior teacher, but yeah, continued bad behavior IS the new teacher's fault after a few weeks.
There are bad, unruly kids in the world -- we just call them "kids." That is what they do, how they are. Part of the teacher's job is to get them to study and behave despite their preferences and predilections...and lots of folks can do that job quite well...and lots of folks can't.... |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Kennyftw's post brings to mind one point;
Here are 2 teachers, one says he's got certification and is fully trained to be a teacher , the OP didn't tell us his background but someone accused him of being clueless and untrained.
Both are having the same types of issues with classroom management.
So how well does being a certified teacher actually prepare anyone for the job as an EFL instructor?
I'd say not very well at all. Some things are only gained through experience. |
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