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2nd year in Korea... what to do? what did you do?
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mandrews1985



Joined: 12 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:35 am    Post subject: 2nd year in Korea... what to do? what did you do? Reply with quote

Hey guys, just looking at getting some feedback from guys and gals who have been here for more than 1 year.

I've had a great time in my current hagwan teaching primarily middle school kids. However I won't re-sign with them, nothing personal it's just I want to go back home for 2 or 3 months before starting a second contract, also I would like to try a different area. Daegu is fantastic, but I've done it, now to move on.

I'm thinking of a smaller place, slightly less westernised city, so Daegu, Seoul and Busan doesnt interest me. Is there any places you could suggest? My only preference would be, coastal area.

Well anyway, what I'm really after is what did you do for your 2nd year?

Did you re-sign, find a new job, change location or change country completely? (I am also putting feelers out for Japan which I fancy right now)

Did you go home between 1st contract and 2nd?

Will recruiters treat me like the absolute newbies or will my one year experience help me get a better job? Will I find the better jobs through a recruiter?

I don't have a Masters or a degree in education, just the standard BA so I think an university is out of the question. I heard about some hagwans that teach university students. This would interest me a lot but I have never seen them advertised, are there any big english language franchises for univeristy students?

The EPIK route is something I have never considered because I don't like the idea of having a co teacher sitting in my classes. Is this much of a problem? Basically the co teacher hurdle is the only aspect of EPIK that puts me off big time, I like having creative freedom in class.

So yeah.... please answer or give details of what you are doing/done for the 2nd year, would love some advice.

Cheers guys
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Japan was an option for 2nd year I would suggest take it.

If you stay for a 2nd or 3rd year in Korea, you become too invested: relationships, friendships, routines, and ultimately start to get iffy about any sort of change.

If you work in a 2nd country in the 2nd year = then you get the adventure aspect back and keep learning and keep doing new things.

The more years you stay in Korea, the more difficult it is to leave. Confused
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smaller than Daegu and a coastal city.

Go to Pohang.
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munybse



Joined: 24 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in Daegu, in fact perhaps another branch of the same hagwon as you, and I went home for a few months before coming back. I still enjoy Daegu, but I am thinking like you I want to go to a smaller place.

Some of the cities I am going to look into include Pohang (which I have enjoyed when visiting), Mokpo (another coastal town), and Jeonju (when I was home I had a job offer hear and liked the town). Also Changwon seems to be a good place to look as well.

Good luck on your search.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 2nd year in Korea... what to do? what did you do? Reply with quote

Just keep wandering aimlessly until an idea pops up in your mind. Wink
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rainism



Joined: 13 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
If Japan was an option for 2nd year I would suggest take it.

If you stay for a 2nd or 3rd year in Korea, you become too invested: relationships, friendships, routines, and ultimately start to get iffy about any sort of change.

If you work in a 2nd country in the 2nd year = then you get the adventure aspect back and keep learning and keep doing new things.

The more years you stay in Korea, the more difficult it is to leave. Confused


No. Not really. Maybe in your case.

I haven't become invested in anything in Korea that I couldn't leave in a nanosecond. Perhaps that's a reflection on me, perhaps on the area I live in and perhaps a reflection on "Korean culture" and my general aversion to it.

I stayed because I liked my job situation, wanted to save up more money and travel around Asia a bit more. The Asia travel sucked up enough money so that I stayed for a third year Smile

but I'm "Korea'd out" for the most part and I'm not really going to learn anything new about Korea and Koreans by staying here any longer.

only a sweet gig in a juicy part of Seoul would possibly sway me.
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mandrews1985



Joined: 12 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

munybse wrote:
I work in Daegu, in fact perhaps another branch of the same hagwon as you, and I went home for a few months before coming back. I still enjoy Daegu, but I am thinking like you I want to go to a smaller place.

Some of the cities I am going to look into include Pohang (which I have enjoyed when visiting), Mokpo (another coastal town), and Jeonju (when I was home I had a job offer hear and liked the town). Also Changwon seems to be a good place to look as well.

Good luck on your search.


Thanks, I checked your last posts you made here, are you an Avalon teacher right now?

I'm gunna research the places you have said, see what they are like. I've enjoyed Daegu, I've enjoyed Avalon but I see it like this... Asia's a big place and I'd like to see a little bit more of it.

If I didnt meet you previously, or at the IAAF then I'm sure I'll meet you at the company sports weekend in October. If you don't mind, send me a msg with your name and branch in, I'd have sent you already but I'm still under the 25 posts needed to be able to send messages.

Cheers!
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again getting invested in a place is not a bad thing either....
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mandrews1985



Joined: 12 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Munybse for your message, yup you're spot on, I'm Mark!

PatrickGHBusan, I do agree, getting invested in a place is not a bad thing and it's not like I'm avoiding the chance either. Just feel I'd like try other places while I'm on my asian adventure and not invested in one place.

If that's in Korea or else where, I don't know yet, still got a few months to decide on that.

Cheers for the replies so far!
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice: Rather than pick a great location, cast a wide net and look for a great job. Most Korean cities and towns seem a lot better when you have a job you're happy with.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
My advice: Rather than pick a great location, cast a wide net and look for a great job. Most Korean cities and towns seem a lot better when you have a job you're happy with.


Great advice.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend Gwangju. It's a great area. Or, if you want something smaller go to Yeosu.
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cert43



Joined: 17 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So yo' for the record Iam just wondering who that 'can't change' was directed specfically at? Shocked

I wouldn't come back to Korea after a second go around..
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mandrews1985



Joined: 12 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
My advice: Rather than pick a great location, cast a wide net and look for a great job. Most Korean cities and towns seem a lot better when you have a job you're happy with.


Thanks and I agree but the problem I see with this is how do I find a great job? Every job offered by a recruiter will be a 'great job' according to my recruiter.

Unfortunately I don't have a Masters, so I only have 2 avenues, Hagwans or Public Schools. Both appear to be very hit or miss, and I really don't like the idea of having a co teacher.

A 'great' job for me would consist of just the right balance of freedom and structure in class. I dont want to teach elementary or kindie. Middle school or higher with a few foreign teachers in place.

I guess this is why I am a little more interested in finding the right location as I don't feel it would take a lot to find the job I am satisfied with.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mandrews1985 wrote:
Son Deureo! wrote:
My advice: Rather than pick a great location, cast a wide net and look for a great job. Most Korean cities and towns seem a lot better when you have a job you're happy with.


Thanks and I agree but the problem I see with this is how do I find a great job? Every job offered by a recruiter will be a 'great job' according to my recruiter.

Unfortunately I don't have a Masters, so I only have 2 avenues, Hagwans or Public Schools. Both appear to be very hit or miss, and I really don't like the idea of having a co teacher.

A 'great' job for me would consist of just the right balance of freedom and structure in class. I dont want to teach elementary or kindie. Middle school or higher with a few foreign teachers in place.

I guess this is why I am a little more interested in finding the right location as I don't feel it would take a lot to find the job I am satisfied with.


How do you find a great job?

Simply put...by doing some research, by networking with other teachers (Korean and foreign) so you get an idea of whats out there, by preparing in advance and keeping current with whats available out there....

A great job will not just walk up to you...you need to find it.

You do not necessarily need a Masters for this either as there are excellent Hakwon jobs out there.

Something as simple as talking with fellow teachers and enquiring about jobs out there can be a good start for example.

Also what did you do to improve your employability profile during this past year? Did you study on on teaching methods, took seminars online, attend a conference?

Those are things that make you stand out and in many cases places or activities that are fertile grounds for networking.

If you did none of these and just did the minimum at your job then you will very much be relying on recruiters just like you did for your first job....that will not land you the better positions unless you are very lucky.

Good luck to you anyway! Smile
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