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Who are you voting for/would you vote for?
Obama
43%
 43%  [ 37 ]
Romney
4%
 4%  [ 4 ]
Huckabee
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Trump
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Paul
34%
 34%  [ 29 ]
Other GOP Canbdidate
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Other Democrat Candidate
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Third party
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Other
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Not voting/don't want to vote
5%
 5%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 85

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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Let's vote Reply with quote

Spring '11

The primaries will be on one year from now

The win by a nose will be forgotten, and it will be back to the usual:

Iowa and New Hampshire will, American Idle-stylie, get to bump off two candidates, before the rest of the country has its say.

Why Iowa and New Hampshire? Well, primarily because it's a tradition not unlike Islamic foot-bathing. There's really no reason for this front-loading, and based on recent results, you'd be hard-pressed to demonstrate how Iowa and New Hampshire residents have guided us to some higher plain.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I clicked for Obama because he's the only Dem on the ballot at this point. If Howard Dean challenged from the left, I would have to sit down and think pretty hard about it.

The GOP field is very weak so far. Maybe by next winter one of the governors will emerge as a viable candidate.

It is very hard to unseat an incumbent president. It can be done (see Bush I) but it's hard. At this point, with the economy reviving, unless there is a third party to split the liberal vote, any GOP candidate will just be a sacrificial lamb.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you'd be hard-pressed to demonstrate how Iowa and New Hampshire residents have guided us to some higher plain.


It's disheartening to see you denigrate Iowa's most recent gift to national politics, and most especially to GOP politics, the great junior backbench representative from Minnesota, Michelle Bachmann. I was disappointed to see her name missing from the list you provided. I would like to see her as the standard bearer for the Republican Party in '12.
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Christie.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preferably "other", but I'll have to wait to see who the eventual two toss-up disappointments are before I can scratch anyone in on my dance card.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Former Governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson.

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He favors legalizing pot, supports abortion rights, and opposes the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Oh, and he doesn't go to church. "I don't think you'll ever hear me invoking God in anything I do," he tells me.

...

On other issues, Johnson doesn't bother to hide his disdain for his party's hard-liners. Take the incendiary new immigration law passed in Arizona, for instance:

"I just don't think it's going to work," he says. "I think it' s going to lead to racial profiling. I don't how you determine one individual from another -- is it color of skin? -- as to whether one is an American citizen or the other is an illegal immigrant."

Johnson favors an expansive guest worker program and is uncomfortable with the idea of mass deportations. What about the idea of increasing security by means of a border wall?

"I have never been supportive of the wall," he replied. "A 10-foot wall [just] requires an 11-foot ladder."


He doesn't have a chance.

But Governors generally do better in the Executive Branch than Congressmen (and I can yet think of a recent exception).
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fake vote goes to Ron Paul.
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't vote because of a technicality.

I'm officially a resident of the state of Oregon, and I still have a valid driver's license for Oregon, but when I moved to WA (five months before coming to Korea) I had to tell the state of Oregon about the move in order to continue receiving unemployment benefits from a former job. So the state of Oregon knows I don't live there anymore and therefore won't send me a ballot.

I tried to gain residency in WA before coming to Korea, but WA wanted me to prove my residence by showing them a utility bill in my name. They were quite strict about this and wouldn't accept a bank statement. I did not have a utility bill under my name where I was living in WA, so they didn't believe that I really lived there, so the state of WA won't send me a ballot, either.

If I were able to vote, I'd probably vote for Obama. He's certainly not the best president ever but I like him a lot more than the other candidates.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a principled liberal who I found appealing were to challenge Obama, I'd consider voting for him. Otherwise, no one.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
They were quite strict about this and wouldn't accept a bank statement. I did not have a utility bill under my name where I was living in WA, so they didn't believe that I really lived there, so the state of WA won't send me a ballot, either.


Consider writing your representative in the House or Senate and explaining your situation. There should be a way of establishing legal residency somewhere. After all, it's a constitutional right to vote. Maybe you could claim your parents' as your legal address?
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You vote for Obama just because he is the only Dem? This is what's wrong with America.

Stop voting by party, vote by ideals.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
You vote for Obama just because he is the only Dem? This is what's wrong with America.

Stop voting by party, vote by ideals.


I'll fall back on that great conservative, Otto von Bismarck: "Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable, the next best." Ideals are the goal, politics is how you get there.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writing in Jefferson Davis or Lloyd Bridges.
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Space Bar



Joined: 20 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sallymonster wrote:
I can't vote because of a technicality.

I'm officially a resident of the state of Oregon, and I still have a valid driver's license for Oregon, but when I moved to WA (five months before coming to Korea) I had to tell the state of Oregon about the move in order to continue receiving unemployment benefits from a former job. So the state of Oregon knows I don't live there anymore and therefore won't send me a ballot.

I tried to gain residency in WA before coming to Korea, but WA wanted me to prove my residence by showing them a utility bill in my name. They were quite strict about this and wouldn't accept a bank statement. I did not have a utility bill under my name where I was living in WA, so they didn't believe that I really lived there, so the state of WA won't send me a ballot, either.

If I were able to vote, I'd probably vote for Obama. He's certainly not the best president ever but I like him a lot more than the other candidates.

People like yourself and expats without a state residence are still able to vote in federal elections via the Federal Write-in Absentee Ballot.

It pains me to tell you this seeing as how you are leaning towards BO, but there is still time for you to come around. Besides, we Ron Paul supporters are strong backers of constitutional democracy.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/08/south_carolina_debate/

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Ron Paul will just say his usual cranky stuff about endless expensive unchecked war...


^ a liberal publication. The author also called Sarah Palin an anti-semite over at the most obnoxious site ever (Gawker). No word if she made a nazi salute whilst in Israel.

This is going to be loads of fun to observe.
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