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EmGen
Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: Taking a 'Vacation' Outside of Vacation Time |
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So here's the deal:
I've gotten a chance to go to the U.S. for a trip early next month, I would be taking about 10-14 days off. I work at a public elementary school, GEPIK school, and this isn't during my vacation time.
Is there any chance of them letting me take this time off? I haven't asked yet, but I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Maybe I could give up some of my paid vacation time during the winter break, or tell them they don't have to pay me for this time, or tell them I will cover some extra classes when I return.
I absolutely have to take this time off, and I am just looking for anything I can do to make this work. I know that public schools really don't allow time off so easily, so I'm looking for any advice.
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Taking a 'Vacation' Outside of Vacation Time |
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Is there any chance of them letting me take this time off? |
Nope. |
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Setaro
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Taking a 'Vacation' Outside of Vacation Time |
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| EmGen wrote: |
So here's the deal:
I've gotten a chance to go to the U.S. for a trip early next month, I would be taking about 10-14 days off. I work at a public elementary school, GEPIK school, and this isn't during my vacation time.
Is there any chance of them letting me take this time off? I haven't asked yet, but I have a pretty good relationship with them.
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Absolute zero chance. In fact you might in even risk ruining the good relationship you mentioned just by asking, because, by Korean standards, it's an insane request that no Korean would dare make. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| Korea aside, it's kind of a crazy request as a teacher, regardless of where you are. Did your teachers ever take off for two weeks in the middle of the school year? |
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whatisinmyhead
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| woah, the above posters are way off. i took a week long vacation in May that was obviously not during my set vacation period(s) (i also work at a public school). it was no problem. i simply asked the co-teacher who is "in charge" of me about 2 months before, and got it ok-ed by the principle a few days later. no problem. i was told that i would have to make up the days during summer break time (ie extra summer camp classes), but it never happened. the vacation was to meet with my family, who were going on a vacation themselves (i met them at their destination). obviously family time is big in korea, so perhaps this helped. regardless, they had no way of knowing if i was telling them the truth, so perhaps you could say something to this effect. i realize my case might not be the norm, but the above posters who are saying things like "zero chance" are definitely wrong. give it a try. |
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ThingsComeAround

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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Depends who you ask and how.
Also, the reason you are leaving better be damn good.
I'd say if you have been at this school longer than a year already, that could help your chances. If you were hired in September, forget about it. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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woah, the above posters are way off. i took a week long vacation in May that was obviously not during my set vacation period(s) (i also work at a public school). it was no problem. i simply asked the co-teacher who is "in charge" of me about 2 months before, and got it ok-ed by the principle a few days later. no problem. i was told that i would have to make up the days during summer break time (ie extra summer camp classes), but it never happened. the vacation was to meet with my family, who were going on a vacation themselves (i met them at their destination). obviously family time is big in korea, so perhaps this helped. regardless, they had no way of knowing if i was telling them the truth, so perhaps you could say something to this effect. i realize my case might not be the norm, but the above posters who are saying things like "zero chance" are definitely wrong. give it a try.
I'd say you are totally unprofessional. School teachers take holidays out of term time, whether you're teaching in Korea, England or anywhere else for that matter!!  |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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oldtrafford:
Learn to quote. Not bold,
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whatisinmyhead
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say you are totally unprofessional. School teachers take holidays out of term time, whether you're teaching in Korea, England or anywhere else for that matter!! |
unprofessional? "teaching" in korea is itself unprofessional. i guess by the transitive property i am also unprofessional, yes. hey, i asked and received. the school could have easily said no. perhaps they enjoy and appreciate my unprofessionalism... |
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jvalmer

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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| It's rare, but it could happen. Usually the only time you get time off during the semester is if you get married or somebody dies. It doesn't hurt to ask though, but expect a negative answer. |
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shifter2009

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Taking a 'Vacation' Outside of Vacation Time |
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| Setaro wrote: |
| EmGen wrote: |
So here's the deal:
I've gotten a chance to go to the U.S. for a trip early next month, I would be taking about 10-14 days off. I work at a public elementary school, GEPIK school, and this isn't during my vacation time.
Is there any chance of them letting me take this time off? I haven't asked yet, but I have a pretty good relationship with them.
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Absolute zero chance. In fact you might in even risk ruining the good relationship you mentioned just by asking, because, by Korean standards, it's an insane request that no Korean would dare make. |
I wouldn't say zero chance. I know it has been done before. It's frowned on but if they like you and you make a good case you may get it. You are right though that it might backfire on the OP a bit and upset them since it is very rarely, if ever, done by Koreans. Depends on how understanding the OPs handlers are. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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unprofessional? "teaching" in korea is itself unprofessional. i guess by the transitive property i am also unprofessional, yes. hey, i asked and received. the school could have easily said no. perhaps they enjoy and appreciate my unprofessionalism...
Then leave you pratt, you're doing the profession harm. Do a job you like, leave teaching to professionals like me!!!  |
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whatisinmyhead
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| i love teaching! but that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it's a very professional job... also, i don't know very many "professionals" who go to online discussion boards to pick fights, use outrageous amounts of eye rolling emoticons to prove their points, and to proclaim their own professionalism to a bunch of strangers. you are a very interesting "professional"! |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I would be taking about 10-14 days off. I work at a public elementary school, GEPIK school, and this isn't during my vacation time. |
What if you just go and come back later? It's not like they are going to replace you instantly. Email and say an emergency came up. Sort it out when you return. If you are present after the fact, they are more likely to work something out (deduction in pay, etc...) than get a new teacher. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject:
i love teaching! but that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it's a very professional job... also, i don't know very many "professionals" who go to online discussion boards to pick fights, use outrageous amounts of eye rolling emoticons to prove their points, and to proclaim their own professionalism to a bunch of strangers. you are a very interesting "professional"!
it's an on line annoymous board. you bloody pratt. It has nothing to do with my bloody work, now stop defending your bloody unprofessional actions you fool!!!  |
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