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nigelnigel
Joined: 16 Sep 2011
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 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: Top 10 Tools For Getting That Uni Job... |
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I see a lot of questions and comments about HOW, WHERE, WHEN to get that uni job so many of us are looking for. The comments and suggestions get fragmented over so many posts so I was wondering, with the help of those looking and especially from those who have procured a uni job, if we could compile the must have list:
Example 1: A resume that includes the following... specifically designed for a university job.
Example 2: These documents are absolutely necessary in order to get that job: FBI check...etc. etc.
Example 3: Universities hire on these dates...and the typical pay is...
Example 4: Typical working/contact hours...student population...vacation time..
I was thinking this could be like a rubric type of thing that would be a great resource. So if those uni teachers and those that have experience have any time and would like to share I am sure all of us here would appreciate it greatly.
Thank you all in advance:
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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LOL.... you forgot, "How high is UP?"
Seriously, if you have a related (not just ESL) MA, ABD, PhD then it is all about your credentials and publications and you won't be asking on Dave's.
If you don't then it is all about who you know and who knows you and the rest, well.... it is what you can make of it.
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nigelnigel
Joined: 16 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| With those credentials listed, which I have, then landing the job is no problem is what you are saying? I have TEFL, MAESL, teaching experience. blah blah blah but there is more to it than that...i see you mention it is all who you know. I am getting to the "i want to know you" part. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| nigelnigel wrote: |
| With those credentials listed, which I have, then landing the job is no problem is what you are saying? I have TEFL, MAESL, teaching experience. blah blah blah but there is more to it than that...i see you mention it is all who you know. I am getting to the "i want to know you" part. |
If you are IN Korea then network. You will land a post for next March.
If you are NOT in Korea then all you can do it watch for the scraps that land on the jobs boards and try like the rest.
NOT being in Korea actually puts you behind most people with Korean experience and who are in Korea (even if they only have a BA).
Networking here (on daves or the internet) won't help much. I (as but one example) wouldn't hire anyone from here (while they are abroad) for a uni post and ALL of the decent positions that I am aware of require you to interview here at your expense (unless of course you are a published PhD - in which case they would have been looking for you rather than the other way around).
As to the "How to find a uni job in Korea". Just a simple google search of Dave's will find the previous threads from those of us who were successful.
Edited in to actually answer your questions posed in the OP.
1) resume with experience in reverse chronological order followed by publications and presentations. Follow that up with your credentials and additional professional development.
2) specific documentation will depend on the position and visa class.
If you are hired as a visiting professor (E1) then proof of experience and credentials.
If you are hired as a teacher of other languages (E2) then you jump through the same hoops as every other E2 applicant (undergraduate degree copy with apostille and national criminal background check with an apostille.
Anything else will be at the request of the employer (and they vary with the employer - usually listed in the job ad) and not a requirement for the visa.
3) Again, varies but generally they begin recruitment in late November and the new term starts in March of the following year. Interviews are usually held in Korea in December.
4) Again, varies with visa class and job description. Your typical newbie to Korea on an E2 and working at a uni will be expected to teach up to 18 classes per week and have about 12 weeks of annual vacation.
Some of the better positions on an E1 have you work about 5-12 classes per week with up to 16 weeks of vacation.
Salaries vary widely from as low as 1.8 million KRW and no benefits in a university language center to as much as 4.0 million KRW at some of the top tier universities.
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:52 am Post subject: |
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tthompatz stated that "all of the decent positions require you to interview in Korea at your own expense."
True for the most part, but I guess that depends on what a particular person considers "decent."
I received my Uni job while I was in the USA over the summer. I had an initial phone interview, and then a SKYPE video interview where I did a "mock lesson"
I work 15 hours a week--freshman Uni classes and a writing class.
I have 12 weeks vacation and gross 2.4 with free housing, internet, cable.
I have the option to work winter/summer camps at the Language Center, in which case I would make an extra 3 mil for each 1 month session.
Granted, this isn't what might be considered a "top notch" University, and It's not in Seoul, but the students are great, the city is nice with enough to do to keep me entertained, and I work with 9 other pretty cool foreign teachers. To me, this is pretty decent 
So don't think that just because you aren't in Korea at the moment, you can't get a good gig!
I should mention though, that I had 4 years of experience in Korea and my Master's. I was in the US to get all the documments for the the new Kimmi law. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| A 'mock lesson' on Skype. That's taking it to a whole new level |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:00 am Post subject: |
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A list? Sure...
1- Qualifications: have that MA, preferably in a related field. That puts you ahead of the curve
2- Relevant experience
3- Solid references
4- Contacts (network, network, network)
5- Be in Korea
6- Have a track record that shows you go beyond the minimal requirement when you work
7- Teaching portfolio is a plus
8- Take courses every year, continuously improve professionally
9- Understand what professionalism means in terms of demeanor, attitude and look
10- Timing: apply during hiring season.
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When: November to January is prime hiring season
Where: All across Korea but being IN Korea is a huge asset when applying.
How: direct application with the relevant departments at those universities you target |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Plato--
That's what I thought, but oddly enough it worked out pretty well--a bit awkward with the picture and not knowing where to look; but they were more interested in the content and how I do my lessons than how it looked on SKYPE.
Anyhoo-I'm here, at a Uni that I like, and I wasn't IN Korea at the time.
Of course being in country is a major advantage; but that doesn't mean you should give up all hope if you're not |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Feloria wrote: |
Plato--
That's what I thought, but oddly enough it worked out pretty well--a bit awkward with the picture and not knowing where to look; but they were more interested in the content and how I do my lessons than how it looked on SKYPE.
Anyhoo-I'm here, at a Uni that I like, and I wasn't IN Korea at the time.
Of course being in country is a major advantage; but that doesn't mean you should give up all hope if you're not |
Indeed not but it will greatly enhance your odds of landing a job, and also of landing one of the better positions (granted you have actual qualifications of course!) |
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nigelnigel
Joined: 16 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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@ PatrickGHbusan
In addition:
When: November to January is prime hiring season
Where: All across Korea but being IN Korea is a huge asset when applying.
How: direct application with the relevant departments at those universities you target[/quote]
Great List!
I see that being in Korea really helps you choose from possible positions that would be offered. And thank you for posting the hiring season. I was really wondering about that. How long after the interview and hopeful hiring do they want you to start? Is the hiring season Nov-Jan for a school term that starts when? |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| You will never 'land' a uni job, you have to go out and get it. That's the only tip you need. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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@ PatrickGHbusan
In addition:
When: November to January is prime hiring season
Where: All across Korea but being IN Korea is a huge asset when applying.
How: direct application with the relevant departments at those universities you target |
Great List!
I see that being in Korea really helps you choose from possible positions that would be offered. And thank you for posting the hiring season. I was really wondering about that. How long after the interview and hopeful hiring do they want you to start? Is the hiring season Nov-Jan for a school term that starts when? |
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nigelnigel
Joined: 16 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| You will never 'land' a uni job, you have to go out and get it. That's the only tip you need. |
NO! that is NOT the only tip I need. but thanks anyway. You can keep your oh so helpful tips to yourself next time. Thanks |
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nigelnigel
Joined: 16 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
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@ PatrickGHbusan
In addition:
When: November to January is prime hiring season
Where: All across Korea but being IN Korea is a huge asset when applying.
How: direct application with the relevant departments at those universities you target |
Great List!
I see that being in Korea really helps you choose from possible positions that would be offered. And thank you for posting the hiring season. I was really wondering about that. How long after the interview and hopeful hiring do they want you to start? Is the hiring season Nov-Jan for a school term that starts when? |
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Thank you very much. you are very helpful |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much. you are very helpful |
Watch yourself noob. You are talking to one of the most helpful posters ever on Dave's. He is throwing you a bone by replying to your too-often-asked question; have some respect.
However...
| ttompatz wrote: |
| Networking here (on daves or the internet) won't help much. |
I met (who is now) one of my best friends on Dave's who also helped connect me to my current position at a top 5 university. So, while typically this may be true, it isn't always. |
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