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US Soldier Gets 10 Years for Raping Korean Girl
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Dodge7



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:37 am    Post subject: US Soldier Gets 10 Years for Raping Korean Girl Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/us-gi-skorea-gets-10-years-prison-rape-043537345.html

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) � A South Korean court sentenced a U.S. soldier to 10 years in prison Tuesday for raping a teenage girl � the second harshest punishment handed down to a convicted American soldier here in nearly 20 years.

Uijeongbu District Court convicted 21-year-old Pfc. Kevin Flippin of sexually assaulting the 16-year-old girl numerous times after breaking into her small boarding room near Seoul in September, court spokesman Lee Sang-yup said.

Flippin committed many "sadistic and sexually perverted acts" while threatening the girl with a pair of scissors, a knife and a lighter, Lee said. The soldier robbed the girl of 5,000 won ($4.50) as well, he said.

The court verdict said the girl felt "terrified and sexually humiliated," according to Lee.

The case, along with a separate rape allegation by a teenage girl against another U.S. soldier, prompted top U.S. military and government officials to offer public apologies.

"Our sincere apologies go out again to the victim, her family and the Korean community," the 2nd Infantry Division said in a statement later Tuesday.

About a dozen South Korean activists rallied near the U.S. Embassy in Seoul, chanting slogans and holding placards, including one that said: "We need Obama's apology!"

The court ordered Flippin to undergo 80 hours of counseling and his personal information to be made public on a South Korean government website for 10 years, Lee said.

Prosecutors had demanded a 15-year prison term. The court, however, decided on a 10-year sentence because Flippin had repented, was still young and the rape was his first crime, Lee said.

Both prosecutors and the soldier have one week to appeal, he said.

About 28,500 U.S. troops are stationed in South Korea, and crimes involving them have fired anti-American sentiments among many South Koreans.

In 2002, the acquittals of two American soldiers whose armored vehicle ran over and killed two South Korean schoolgirls during training prompted massive nationwide protests against the U.S. military presence in the country.

Following the latest rape case, the U.S. military reinstated a curfew for U.S. soldiers and increased joint patrols by U.S. soldiers and South Korean police around U.S. installations in South Korea.

Tuesday's sentencing is the longest prison term for an American soldier stationed in South Korea since 1993, when a U.S. soldier was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a South Korean bar employee, according to the Foreign Ministry. His life sentence was later reduced to 15 years, and the soldier was eventually released in 2006.
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was arrested a month ago and he's already been sentenced. It sounds like the Korean authorities have been very eager to see this soldier face justice.

"Korean authorities are either so eager to prosecute or so confident of the evidence that are bringing the indictment a week faster than normal....

"One city councilman in Uijeongbu is very upset about the situation. His sign says that US soldiers commit many crimes, that he is so angry he cannot live, and the Status of Forces Agreement should be completely revised. Of course, since Pvt. K was off-duty, SOFA isn�t really relevant here."
http://asiancorrespondent.com/66283/us-soldier-accused-of-raping-korean-teen/

He got ten years? The principal of Inhwa School in Gwangju only got probation for raping a 13 year old deaf student.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't the soldier have the option to just pay the girl some money and have the charges go away as is often the case in Korean jurisprudence?

Is there any Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?
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louisfx



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds terrible. How does one get away with this?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
Didn't the soldier have the option to just pay the girl some money and have the charges go away as is often the case in Korean jurisprudence?

Is there any Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?



This guy got 12 years. A handful are serving life sentences. Seems like 15 years is the limit for most though.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/09/world/fg-korea-rapes9

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Officials want to expand the sentencing limit for sex crimes, which is 15 years or less for most offenses. Lawmakers are exploring the legality of chemical castration and are reviewing ways to expand the offender database.


Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
radcon wrote:
Didn't the soldier have the option to just pay the girl some money and have the charges go away as is often the case in Korean jurisprudence?

Is there any Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?



This guy got 12 years. A handful are serving life sentences. Seems like 15 years is the limit for most though.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/09/world/fg-korea-rapes9

Quote:
Officials want to expand the sentencing limit for sex crimes, which is 15 years or less for most offenses. Lawmakers are exploring the legality of chemical castration and are reviewing ways to expand the offender database.


Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through.


The guy who got 12 years was a repeat offender and his crime was particularly heinous. The story in your link also said that half of the men convicted of child sex crimes got off with a fine and another 30% got a suspended sentence.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
radcon wrote:
Didn't the soldier have the option to just pay the girl some money and have the charges go away as is often the case in Korean jurisprudence?

Is there any Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?



This guy got 12 years. A handful are serving life sentences. Seems like 15 years is the limit for most though.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/09/world/fg-korea-rapes9

Quote:
Officials want to expand the sentencing limit for sex crimes, which is 15 years or less for most offenses. Lawmakers are exploring the legality of chemical castration and are reviewing ways to expand the offender database.


Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through.


The guy who got 12 years was a repeat offender and his crime was particularly heinous. The story in your link also said that half of the men convicted of child sex crimes got off with a fine and another 30% got a suspended sentence.



Yes, but that wasn't your question to which I was responding.

You asked and I quote
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"Is there ANY Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?"


(Capitals are mine for emphasis)

To which I pointed out that yes there are a few and gave a specific example of one.

And as I also said "Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through." which should have been a strong tip-off that I don't agree with the majority of the resolutions of these cases.
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DIsbell



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
Didn't the soldier have the option to just pay the girl some money and have the charges go away as is often the case in Korean jurisprudence?

Is there any Korean man in jail right now serving anywhere near ten years for rape?


Here's a quote from the judge regarding money, from a BBC News article:

Quote:
"He deserves a stern punishment as there were no efforts to compensate the victim or remedy the assault," said the judge.


Kind of disgusting. What's the moral here, you can pay your way out of prison time? If you pay the woman then it's just surprise prostitution, not so bad?

It's appropriate that the guy got major time for doing this. Unfortunately, the case shows us that there are still some major problems to deal with regarding sexual violence in Korea.
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Squire



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to do with this case but I'd like to see US troops leave SK too.
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no_tofu_speed



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 years for rape is a sufficient term... Korean or American.
Sure the system may have failed previously... and in the past sexual assault has been considered too lightly...
Turning this into a US being treated unfairly vs a Korean being sentenced, just because previously some Koreans have wrongly got a slap on the wrist is bullshit... it is a serious crime.
People should be happy that the sentence is fitting, whether it is US or Korean.
In a western country you would also get a similar sentence.
Punishment for cases like the one in Gwangju, is also bullshit...
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:


And as I also said "Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through." which should have been a strong tip-off that I don't agree with the majority of the resolutions of these cases.


You mentioned a possible proposal including chemical castration. You don't agree with that solution, do you?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:


And as I also said "Hopefully some of this new legislation will be pushed through." which should have been a strong tip-off that I don't agree with the majority of the resolutions of these cases.


You mentioned a possible proposal including chemical castration. You don't agree with that solution, do you?


Notice that the link I posted referred to child rape cases.

For those who rape children? Why yes, yes I do. The guy who's specific case I referred not only attacked a little girl so savagely that she will be disabled for the rest of her life...he used bleach on her to erase evidence of his crimes. Someone like that I would have no problem agreeing with chemical castration.

If you disagree, could you explain why?
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Birder



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I'm trying to do now is to square this sentence (too brief, in my opinion) with the time a Korean national got for raping an American (female) soldier in Uijeongbu last summer. He was sentenced in the past couple of weeks. He got three and half years. Didn't hear any gnashing of teeth there, though. It seems the court took into consideration that the rapist was "a first time offender, and committed his crime unintentionally after drinking and regrets his wrongdoings." WTF? So, next time he'll get five years if he he was drunk and still didn't really intend to rape? Yet, when the US soldier's attorneys argued for leniency due to the fact that their client was drunk, that didn't seem to resonate so much with the judge. I love Korea, but this is not right. And this is why the SOFA should never have been altered to allow Korean courts to try such cases.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birder wrote:
All I'm trying to do now is to square this sentence (too brief, in my opinion) with the time a Korean national got for raping an American (female) soldier in Uijeongbu last summer. He was sentenced in the past couple of weeks. He got three and half years. Didn't hear any gnashing of teeth there, though. It seems the court took into consideration that the rapist was "a first time offender, and committed his crime unintentionally after drinking and regrets his wrongdoings." WTF? So, next time he'll get five years if he he was drunk and still didn't really intend to rape? Yet, when the US soldier's attorneys argued for leniency due to the fact that their client was drunk, that didn't seem to resonate so much with the judge. I love Korea, but this is not right. And this is why the SOFA should never have been altered to allow Korean courts to try such cases.


Different judges give different sentences. There's no automatic sentence for rape. Heck people get off scot-free sometimes due to technicalities or other factors.

http://ymchiam.multiply.com/journal/item/804/Child_Rapist_gets_suspended_sentence.


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radcon



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Birder wrote:
All I'm trying to do now is to square this sentence (too brief, in my opinion) with the time a Korean national got for raping an American (female) soldier in Uijeongbu last summer. He was sentenced in the past couple of weeks. He got three and half years. Didn't hear any gnashing of teeth there, though. It seems the court took into consideration that the rapist was "a first time offender, and committed his crime unintentionally after drinking and regrets his wrongdoings." WTF? So, next time he'll get five years if he he was drunk and still didn't really intend to rape? Yet, when the US soldier's attorneys argued for leniency due to the fact that their client was drunk, that didn't seem to resonate so much with the judge. I love Korea, but this is not right. And this is why the SOFA should never have been altered to allow Korean courts to try such cases.


Different judges give different sentences. There's no automatic sentence for rape. Heck people get off scot-free sometimes due to technicalities.


Heck people sometimes get off scott -free in Korea just by giving the victim a few million won.
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