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Gun Owners More Likely to Abuse Alcohol
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ghostrider



Joined: 27 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:03 pm    Post subject: Gun Owners More Likely to Abuse Alcohol Reply with quote

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Gun owners: Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. I must warn you, though, that the findings on gun ownership and risky alcohol behaviors published this week in the British Medical Journal do not paint an altogether flattering picture.

You're twice as likely as people who do not have a gun at home to down five or more drinks in a single sitting. You're almost two-and-a-half times more likely than people who do not have a gun at home to get behind the wheel of a car when you have, by your own admission, drunk "perhaps too much." And you were just a little less likely than that (2.39 times as likely to be exact) to consume 60 or more drinks per month.

And compared with gun owners who kept their firearms at home unloaded and under lock and key, those who said they sometimes carry a loaded weapon for personal protection or who keep a weapon loaded and unlocked around the house were more likely to do things like drink and drive, and to engage in what substance abuse researchers call "binge drinking."

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/16/news/la-heb-guns-alcohol-gunowners-risk-taking-20110615

How ironic that the kinds of people that choose to own guns and pack heat are the kinds of people that can least be trusted with lethal weapons. No wonder more guns doesn't mean less crime.
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yodanole



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I don't have a gun, how am I going to be able to rob the liquor store?
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ghostrider



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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House Republican leaders have decided to cancel meetings of their much-ballyhooed, brand new task force on gun rights rather than suffer an inevitable humiliation in the media. The task force chairman just went to jail for driving drunk with a loaded gun.

http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2011/10/13/house-firearms-task-force-canceledthe-chairman-went-to-jail

OOPS!
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't drink, but if I would be a gun owner if I was American.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Mr. Smartypants, explain to me how I'm supposed to shoot all those beer cans on the fence and liquor bottles I throw in the air if I haven't drunk all the booze out of them first?
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alcohol abusers more likely to own guns?
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a licensed CCW holder in my home state, and I rarely drink. Personally, I think it is common sense not to drink and carry a firearm.

The republicans are idiots, anyway.
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alwaysgood



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also more likely to have mountain man beards and "Keep off my property" signs in their yards.
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bekinseki



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes stereotypes have a factual basis.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can think of a very practical reason why intoxicated gun-carrying may be tolerated.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a man is so wimpy as to not drink he probably will be too wimpy to own a gun.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cj1976



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
Alcohol abusers more likely to own guns?


Alcohol users more likely to abuse guns? I shared an apartment with a Republican gun lover and he was a complete [Mod Edit] with alcohol-related anger management issues. He would leave copies of an NRA propaganda rag in the bathroom despite the fact nobody in the house shared his views. The magazine was basically full of unhinged rednecks getting ready for a war.
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why this was mentioned in the LA Times since the survey was conducted in 1997 so it's hardly news.

At first I thought it made sense that alcohol abuse and owning firearms would go together since they both seem to be part of a kind of culture that I can't find a word to describe other than redneck. The problem with this is, alcoholics come from all parts of society and I personally know many rich highbrow alcoholics.

There's nothing about owning firearms that would make someone start to abuse alcohol so I think they both have to do with a certain kind of mentality or culture but obviously one doesn't cause the other and presenting it this way seems like propaganda. For what it's worth I'm not a fan of guns and I would possibly be in favor of further restricting them, I just think it's important to be honest about it.
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NovaKart wrote:
I don't know why this was mentioned in the LA Times since the survey was conducted in 1997 so it's hardly news.

At first I thought it made sense that alcohol abuse and owning firearms would go together since they both seem to be part of a kind of culture that I can't find a word to describe other than redneck. The problem with this is, alcoholics come from all parts of society and I personally know many rich highbrow alcoholics.

There's nothing about owning firearms that would make someone start to abuse alcohol so I think they both have to do with a certain kind of mentality or culture but obviously one doesn't cause the other and presenting it this way seems like propaganda. For what it's worth I'm not a fan of guns and I would possibly be in favor of further restricting them, I just think it's important to be honest about it.


That study is a crock of poo. Weathercock logic!
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