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Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise?
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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:39 am    Post subject: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

I'm nearing my 10 year mark in Busan and feel the need to escape Korea. I'm wondering if Jeju is any different? I'm feeling burnt out in all the usual areas you might expect a vet to be burnt out in. I can elaborate if necessary, but let's just assume for the sake of brevity you understand already.
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mr_thehorse



Joined: 27 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
I'm nearing my 10 year mark in Busan and feel the need to escape Korea. I'm wondering if Jeju is any different? I'm feeling burnt out in all the usual areas you might expect a vet to be burnt out in. I can elaborate if necessary, but let's just assume for the sake of brevity you understand already.


Hard to answer that one. I found Jeju to be quite relaxing. But then again, I thought Busan was pretty relaxing compared to Seoul.

I found the expat community in Jeju to be pretty close, and laid back. That might be the best indicator on the living in Korea scale.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

mr_thehorse wrote:
But then again, I thought Busan was pretty relaxing compared to Seoul.


Busan is full of farmyacker peasants. They make the snot-rocketing ajoshis of Seoul look well-mannered.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
mr_thehorse wrote:
But then again, I thought Busan was pretty relaxing compared to Seoul.


Busan is full of farmyacker peasants. They make the snot-rocketing ajoshis of Seoul look well-mannered.


And Chinese, these days, apparently, who often make those farmyacker peasants look like urbane Tokyo sophisticates.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

northway wrote:

And Chinese, these days, apparently, who often make those farmyacker peasants look like urbane Tokyo sophisticates.


Chinese are civilized compared to Koreans. I mingle with coachloads of Chinese tourists every week (tour groups stay on my block). I've also visited Shanghai and Beijing. I had a Chinese g/f for a few months. They are somewhat primitive and hostile, but at least they have a certain modicum of manners and hygiene.

Korean men don't flush toilets or wash their hands. Then they eat from the same bowl.
Koreans move into your personal space then expect you to move. They don't say excuse me, they just walk right into you and expect you to move out the way.
Koreans yell and scream at the top of their voices at all hours of the day and night. They spit, hoke and blow phlegm everywhere. They regard non-Koreans as less than human. They pick their noses and roll snotballs all day long.

none of the above applies to Chinese.
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have generally found Chinese people pleasant to be around, much better than Koreans actually. I also had a Chinese girlfriend. She was wonderful. I'm not sure why people bash on the Chinese so much. I find they are a relief compared to the K culture.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only been to Busan three times, total of 2 weeks. I loved it. If I could have worked there, I would've preferred it over Seoul. The air is cleaner, the coast is nice, and the city had enough for my needs as a westerner.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nester Noodlemon wrote:
I have generally found Chinese people pleasant to be around, much better than Koreans actually. I also had a Chinese girlfriend. She was wonderful. I'm not sure why people bash on the Chinese so much. I find they are a relief compared to the K culture.


Pro-TW bias, in my case.
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sligo



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife tells me that the men of Busan are the most mysogynistic in Korea. I once met a friend of my wife and her friend's husband. He did all the driving until we got to a bar, then he ordered a vast amount of beer, and not only ignored the women when it came to pouring, but he refused to toast with them, or even chat. He couldn't speak English either which made it terribly awkward. When we finished, he tossed her the keys and as she had had no choice but to stay sober, he let her drive us back to our hotel as he napped in the car.

As for the Chinese, i will just leave this here: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/thai-temple-build-separate-toilets-non-chinese-visitors-after-compla#xtor=CS1-10
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you see the blue sky there more often?Is it cooler near the sea at all or is it just as humid and rainy in the summer time? Also, does spring start sooner and fall extend later or is there very little diference from the mainland?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Jeju. The air is cleaner. Unlike the big city, in Jeju I can smell nature.

It's an orange eaters paradise. Right now there is a snow capped mountain with palm trees in the lowlands below.

The water is cleaner and softer. When I take a shower, I feel cleaner than I ever did in Seoul.

It's quieter and I rarely hear drunk people yelling. The only time it's noisy is when I'm near a group of Chinese.

I like the ocean, I like the fishing opportunities, the beach, swimming.

At this time of year, not having to deal with ice and snow is wonderful.

The kids like it. Enough said.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Can you see the blue sky there more often?Is it cooler near the sea at all or is it just as humid and rainy in the summer time? Also, does spring start sooner and fall extend later or is there very little diference from the mainland?


First question, Yes.

Second question, yes and no. Early summer the ocean moderates the temperature somewhat but as the ocean heats up it gets more humid. Rainfall varies from light to heavy. However in fall the warm ocean moderates the temperature upward which makes it really nice. Still beach weather for sure.

Spring comes sooner and fall is definitely longer.

A lot of the weather often depends on what side of the island you are on and the wind direction.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan would know better being on the ground, but wages seem to be lower there and hours longer. Yes, the Seoul area occasionally sees advertisements for 9-7 with 2.1 million as the pay, but you can always find somewhere better paying. Based on what I see advertised, 2.2 for 30 teaching hours is a good salary there.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Can you see the blue sky there more often?Is it cooler near the sea at all or is it just as humid and rainy in the summer time? Also, does spring start sooner and fall extend later or is there very little diference from the mainland?


First question, Yes.

Second question, yes and no. Early summer the ocean moderates the temperature somewhat but as the ocean heats up it gets more humid. Rainfall varies from light to heavy. However in fall the warm ocean moderates the temperature upward which makes it really nice. Still beach weather for sure.

Spring comes sooner and fall is definitely longer.

A lot of the weather often depends on what side of the island you are on and the wind direction.


Is the South Side of the island the warmer then or cooler because of more ocean?
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Jeju the antidote to my malaise? Reply with quote

[quote="Chaparrastique"][quote="northway"]

Korean men don't flush toilets or wash their hands. Then they eat from the same bowl.
Koreans move into your personal space then expect you to move. They don't say excuse me, they just walk right into you and expect you to move out the way.
Koreans yell and scream at the top of their voices at all hours of the day and night. They spit, hoke and blow phlegm everywhere. They regard non-Koreans as less than human. They pick their noses and roll snotballs all day long.

none of the above applies to Chinese.[/quote]

Funny and true! (sadly true)
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