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[bacasper]

Air America Poll: 90% Want Bush Crimes Investigation

Air America conducted a poll that asked a question raised by Time Magazine's Joe Klein: "Should Obama pardon George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheney?" The idea: a pardon would brand them for crimes without the agony of a trial.

Air American's aren't buying the Klein solution. They want the whole lot thrown in jail. No trial necessary! A whopping 90% of our 9000 respondents want to see Bush and Company pay for their crimes with either hard time in the pokey or hard time in the pokey after enhanced interrogation techniques. (Shocking!)

In an interview last year with Philadelphia Daily News reporter Will Bunch, Barack Obama said something that seemed to signal the presidential hopeful might prosecute George W. Bush and his staff for crimes committed during the eight-year death march also known as the 43rd presidency of the United States of America.

It was one of the many moments that whipped up my own private Obama fervor. But did he say what I thought he said? Not really.

"I would want to find out directly from my attorney general--having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now--are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies."

That's as strong as it got. There was never any statement of positive intent regarding the prosecution of George W. Bush. Obama never ventured beyond the milquetoast, "We'll look into it." This is the equivalent of a disappointed soon-to-be ex-lover eliciting a "maybe" from a wholly disinterested wished for-former one. It's meaningless.

Last go around we had Bushisms, those zany journeys into the what-the-f-isms of linguistic barbarism. This time around we learn another language lesson among many to come in what seems to be an emerging mode of communication in the Obama camp. Call it Obama-speak. The defining characteristic is an NPR-like far-sightedness, and long form intelligence. Our president has the uncanny ability to perform advanced political calculus on the fly and express the results of those many wondrous equations in simple, if somewhat involved, communications.

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[mises]

Was this an internet poll? 90% seems very high.

Anyways, if they broke laws they should be punished. So yes, investigations are warranted. I'd like this to be the case for every outgoing government in all states. I'd also like my bank account to register five more right side zeros.

[Gopher]

Ninety percent of Air America's listeners? Bizarre that they did not report one-hundred percent.

But so what, Bacasper? They carry little if any weight in actual, on-the-ground politics in Washington.

[NoExplode]

Air America has listeners?!

[wesharris]

Seriously dude. 90 %.
Man that's damned close to 90 total people.
Well gee. Honestly I couldn't give a wart on a hogs ass for what most liberal idiots like those that listen to Air America has.
Seriously bacasper, hippies went out of style in the early 70s man. Stop smoking the weed, and start snorting meth, or something.
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Wes

[Jeff's Cigarettes]

Yeah it might suck for good �ol bushy but all it will do is lessen the support for the Libs who just want to beat a dead horse. The only reason why they're even considering this is to get the people to watch the monkey, while Washington does their own shadowy business. They know that with the pork bill just being passed (and how transparent and available it is for the public) and how many of the 52ers have now had their dreams of heaven on earth crushed by the wonderful outright lies of teh one, that their popularity will probably be dropping here very soon. Thus they need to remind the retarded portion of America exactly why they voted socialist in the first place by attempting to swing bush from the rope so to speak. It has nothing to do with actually finding the truth, they already know the truth, that's what the CIA is for. Politicians (of any make) are the best magicians in the world.

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[Kuros]

Given that the detained were almost all non-citizens, and given also Presidential qualified immunity, I'd say the legal hurdles for prosecuting Bush are quite formidable.

This is why the Democrats don't want to go there. You can complain that, "The new boss, same as the old boss," but I think the Democrats don't want to waste political capital in a legal morass over an issue that really is fading into the past.

[bacasper]

Torture of detainees is only one of many crimes of which Bush can be accused.

Despite qualified immunity, as you know, Kuros, public officials can be sued in either or both of their individual or public capacities, and many acting under color of state law have been found liable in cases under 1983. (I even brought a successful one myself!)

[Kuros]

[Nowhere Man]

Issues of executive power here are fairly significant for posterity.

"The United States does not torture" is a qualified comment, but you are speaking for the United States if you're the chief executive. We still don't have proof of torture, but it's coming. This is a lie.

As such, a precedent should be set for future presidents. If he lied, he should be post-hoc impeached. This doesn't need to be an Obama priority. I'd be content if it happens even after a couple presidents from now.

Not so sure about a criminal prosecution. I think it will soon show that he lied.

Criminally speaking, I think that goes to the war crimes tribunal, so it's not really a US issue per se. It would be fun if he can never set foot in Europe again without facing charges.

[Chuvok]

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