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jajdude · Joined: 18 Jan 2003

Do you find any of your students rude? Sometimes I feel they are. But usually they are like that more at first. Then after a while they almost become people Laughing

SweetBear · Joined: 18 May 2003

I've been thinking about this a bit lately, as I have some new kids in my classes that have been switched from other classes. The kids who constantly talk and generally do all they can to disrupt the class and then when you call them on it, they look bewildered and make a crack or smart remark in Korean which only distracts everyone more.

Naughty kids I can tolerate, I figure, they're just blowing off steam and they generally settle down after a while.

Just yesterday I kept a kid after class who's tone was quite derogatory, you find that one on one, they're not so tough after all. I told him I'd call his mom and tell the director if there were any more problems. We'll see...

I got to wondering though if there is a general attitude towards foreign teachers that they really don't warrant much respect, or maybe it's a hogwan thing in general.

FUBAR · Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.

I think it stems from the fact that they see "Foreign teacher time" as a time to relax. Alot of them have been exposed to teachers who let them run around, do what they want and play games all the time with them. When they finally do get a teacher who wants to teach them something, they don't know how to react.

Another thing not to be overlooked is discipline . When the students act up in class, they know that there will be some sort of punishment for their actions. Most of the foreign teachers just don't have the authority to do anything their students because the parents don't want that, the director won't let them, or whatever reason there is. But, I believe that is some of the root causes for the problems that teachers endure.

ryleeys · Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MD

I got in a bit of trouble this week for giving a student a zero on a test because she cheated on a test...

Another student told me that her parents told her that she doesn't have to listen to me like she does Korean teachers.... are you friggin' kidding me? Then why spend that kinda money to have her in my class?

Alot of my students found out about me getting in trouble for the test incident and now when I try to discipline, they tell me that they are going to "tell on me" to the director or their mothers. I say, go ahead, I don't care.

oneiros · Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Villa Straylight

My problem in my hogwan is that I'm the one with all the classroom rules, while my Korean co-teacher let's them run wild, speak Korean, leave the classroom to go play whenever they want, etc. Most of them have figured out that they can't get away with that in my class, but I still have a couple of hold-outs who aren't cluing in.

VanIslander · Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject:

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

For the most part my students are pretty well behaved they have learned how far they can go and I have in place several warning signals.

When a new student comes in and is poorly behaved I basically go over the rules, the other students clue them in pretty quick.

My favorite incident was with two students Tim and Dragon, they would call me names in Korean, which I got other students to rat them out to the director. Then they switched to holding their noses and making smelly teacher faces whenever I came into class. The first time this happened I cuffed them both 'upside the head' told them that was Mur e han(rude) and told them if they ever did it again they would be out. Now they are two of my best behaved students....go figure.

wylde · Joined: 14 Apr 2003

crazylemongirl · Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...

Most of my students treat me with respect. They do things that they would never do with a korean teacher (one of my co-workers was shocked that some of my kids call me 'sexy teacher') but in general my boys are wonderful. I do have a class that acts like a pack of manaics but whenver I walk past that class is in trouble for something so at least they are equal oppoutunity idiots.

SweetBear · Joined: 18 May 2003

Van Islander wrote:

You decide what you will tolerate and what you won't, and act accordingly.

Too true. The problem for me these days is I have to be less strict than I used to because our hagwon is really hurting financially. Don't get me wrong, I don't take any BS, I've simply had to adapt and go the extra mile to try to make it a win- win situation.

Sb

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land

My students do not act up.

Chinese kids (at least in my conservative little city) do what the teacher tells them, foreigner or not.

I have little strap that gets applied to the palm of their hands when they are VERY naughty.

Used it twice, at the urging of the parents both times. Once for stealing from me, and once for spitting on me.

wylde · Joined: 14 Apr 2003

beast · Joined: 28 Jan 2003

Take the number one trouble maker in class and bust his balls so bad he cries. While he's crying make him answer all the questions, take the whole class. Humiliate him so bad that he has nightmares about you. Do it right the first time and you'll never have to deal with it again.

Toby · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Wedded Bliss

jaderedux · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul

Nope, from day one it was Miss *****. I don't answer to my first name alone and I don't take crap in my class rooms. I love my boys! I let them be boys....silly...noisy and sometimes gross.

But it is my CLASSROOM. You sleep you stand the entire class. You do it again you get to do jumping jacks for 10 minutes. Keeps ya awake!

You break the rules set out at the begining of the year (they are posted in each class room!) you pay the price. You say the F-word you get to write that word in a note book for about an hour after school.

That being said I don't mind the jokes and silly behavior hell they are middle school boys. I let them be what they are with limits. Students need limits.

The atmosphere in the classroom is up to the teacher. I earn respect and treat them with respect also. Disrespect me and the fires of hell will engulf you....!

Jade
the demure