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Moisture and mold around windows?

 
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grandpa



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Moisture and mold around windows? Reply with quote

I seem to be getting a lot of moisure and mold around the windows.

I don't mind just placing towels by the windows to collect the water buildup, but my concern is the mold.

Does mold that forms around windows (on the windows, on the caulking, on the walls surrounding the windows) pose a serious health risk?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can. You must live in an older Korean building. (IE More than 5 years old.) Old thin windows, water and dampness accumulates. Then, it mixes with your carbon dioxide and viola mold. Do you turn on the heat? Sometimes when people don't turn on the heat in winter, this seems to aggravate it. Just rip off the wall paper where it forms and keep that area clear. Mold seems to grow on wallpaper where dampness from the outside gathers on it. Rip off the wallpaper in those regions and scrub that part of the wall with soap and water. Disinfectant spray can be good too. Then get some of that plastic wrap used for sealing windows in winter. Just seal off the whole side of the wall and windows if necessary. More mold will grow under this as time goes on. But find some way to tightly seal it. Don't want to breath that shit it.

It's because buildings were built cheaply and quickly. Piss poor quality 3rd world construction. But many newer buildings are built to western standards. Well, mine is. No mold now and plenty warm in winter. But I use to suffer through. So, I feel your pain. Good luck.
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lemak



Joined: 02 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy some of those hippo tubs that absorb the water. You'd be amazed at how much they can collect. Spray the mold with chlorine bleach as soon as you see it.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those hippos are useless in open spaces.

You need to be airing out your house at minimum 2 to 3 times per day for 5 to 10 mins or else you will not be able to dry out the house and also exchange carbon dioxide for fresh oxygen. Open all or most windows. The carbon dioxide is what contributes greatly to mold. Dry air in your home will literally suck the water out of the walls.

Westerners often are not used to this problem because our homes are built with central air duct vents, and a forced air heating system that dries the air and circulates.

If you problems are more serious, buy a dehumidifier. But try exchanging air first. Especially after showering.

Any mold found must be cleaned quickly. Use Homestar green bathroom cleaner to kill it. It smells good, not nasty, and works.
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grandpa



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Weigookin74, lemak, and Swampfox10mm.

Does the wallpaper really need to be ripped off the walls, or will spraying the moldy wallpaper with a disinfectant spray be enough? I don't want to be dinged for damages to the apartment.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Those hippos are useless in open spaces.

You need to be airing out your house at minimum 2 to 3 times per day for 5 to 10 mins or else you will not be able to dry out the house and also exchange carbon dioxide for fresh oxygen. Open all or most windows. The carbon dioxide is what contributes greatly to mold. Dry air in your home will literally suck the water out of the walls.

Westerners often are not used to this problem because our homes are built with central air duct vents, and a forced air heating system that dries the air and circulates.

If you problems are more serious, buy a dehumidifier. But try exchanging air first. Especially after showering.

Any mold found must be cleaned quickly. Use Homestar green bathroom cleaner to kill it. It smells good, not nasty, and works.



The air outside in Korea is usually damp. It has a lot of moisture in the air most of the year. Humid in summer and damp in winter. Certaintly helps the mold along. Many parts of North America, except for the mid west and southern Ontario, are more dry. We use anti molding drywall and proper insulation. Older home are not insulated. Some starting in the late 90's or early 2000's have spotty insulating at best. Only recently, when an owner isn't cutting corners, have they seemed to have gotten it right. Opening the windows just brings more damp air. Might let out some CO2, but will not really help the problem much.

Case in point, I live in a new building (Villa type). Paid it with my own key money and took the subsidy from my school. I have never been so warm or mold free in my time in Korea as I have been the last couple of winters. Very warm, cheap bill, and no mold ever. Don't have to open my windows when it's cold. No central air, so I do occasionally to let fresh air in. I'd say try to get a place that was built within the past 5 years and hope the guy building it didn't cut corners when building it.

My place has proper insulation, thick double windows. I can turn off the heat and go out, come back a couple of hours later and still feel warm. My old buildings would have been cold and damp 5 minutes after turning off the heat. Sometimes, even cold while the heat is on.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last place was a 450,000,000 Samsung Ramien 3Br. We still got mold on the veranda if we didn't crack an outside window in that area. Mostly in the storage closet and on the wall. I had to scrape paint and repaint with mold killer paint when we moved in.

OP, try the home star green cleaner I mentioned earlier bfr tearing the paper
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grandpa



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
My last place was a 450,000,000 Samsung Ramien 3Br. We still got mold on the veranda if we didn't crack an outside window in that area. Mostly in the storage closet and on the wall. I had to scrape paint and repaint with mold killer paint when we moved in.

OP, try the home star green cleaner I mentioned earlier bfr tearing the paper


Nice place.

I'll see if the local department store carries the cleaner. Thanks Swampfox10mm.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
My last place was a 450,000,000 Samsung Ramien 3Br. We still got mold on the veranda if we didn't crack an outside window in that area. Mostly in the storage closet and on the wall. I had to scrape paint and repaint with mold killer paint when we moved in.

OP, try the home star green cleaner I mentioned earlier bfr tearing the paper


Mine's a 3,000,000 won One room. Happy to say no mold. ha ha. Not during the past year and a half anyways. You was robbed....
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you 're public school and the local education office will let you get your own place, you can try to find a better one. Copy and paste this into Naver: 원룸월세 You can search by city too. It depends on you and your budget. In Seoul / Gyeonggi deposit and rent will be more. In other metro and regional cities will be cheaper. There may be a "New Town" with new buildings built and planned together depending on the size of your town. If you're in a real rural place, you might be out of luck with no new buildings built.

Found a couple of sites:

http://www.skyoneroom.kr But you have to know at least a smidgen of Korean to use these.

http://www.oneroomclub.com

Avoid ones specifically for foriegners. They'll rip you off and try to put you into bad places.

There are many places around called 부동산 (Bu dong san), which you can go to. They are rental agents who'll help you find a place. Find one near the area you want to live. Get a Korean friend to help.
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