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fullcollapseCA



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Location: Cheongju-@ a Hagwon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:29 am    Post subject: FBI Criminal Background check Live Scan question Reply with quote

I'm trying to get my FBI criminal background check done as soon as possible. Someone told me I can submit my fingerprints using the live scan digital printing and send it for processing electronically from the live scan center. Can anyone confirm this? Also, do you know what forms I need to take to the live scan center? I can only find the ink printing forms.

Thanks!
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at your location which is in Korea. Then sorry your nearest one is in California. So quickest way is to go to Incheon Airport....

Looks like your will have to go the slow complicated ink based FBI check way. Unless you want to spend the money on a plane ticket?
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: FBI Criminal Background check Live Scan question Reply with quote

fullcollapseCA wrote:
I'm trying to get my FBI criminal background check done as soon as possible. Someone told me I can submit my fingerprints using the live scan digital printing and send it for processing electronically from the live scan center. Can anyone confirm this? Also, do you know what forms I need to take to the live scan center? I can only find the ink printing forms.

Thanks!


No, you can't do it that way. I had checked that with the FBI. You won't get a report that can be apostlilled if you use live scan. You need to have your prints taken on that fingerprint card.
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fullcollapseCA



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: FBI Criminal Background check Live Scan question Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
fullcollapseCA wrote:
I'm trying to get my FBI criminal background check done as soon as possible. Someone told me I can submit my fingerprints using the live scan digital printing and send it for processing electronically from the live scan center. Can anyone confirm this? Also, do you know what forms I need to take to the live scan center? I can only find the ink printing forms.

Thanks!


No, you can't do it that way. I had checked that with the FBI. You won't get a report that can be apostlilled if you use live scan. You need to have your prints taken on that fingerprint card.


Really? I really appreciate this information. I am currently in California in between contracts. Thanks
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isitts



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: FBI Criminal Background check Live Scan question Reply with quote

fullcollapseCA wrote:
isitts wrote:
fullcollapseCA wrote:
I'm trying to get my FBI criminal background check done as soon as possible. Someone told me I can submit my fingerprints using the live scan digital printing and send it for processing electronically from the live scan center. Can anyone confirm this? Also, do you know what forms I need to take to the live scan center? I can only find the ink printing forms.

Thanks!


No, you can't do it that way. I had checked that with the FBI. You won't get a report that can be apostlilled if you use live scan. You need to have your prints taken on that fingerprint card.


Really? I really appreciate this information. I am currently in California in between contracts. Thanks


I'm afraid so. That was the first thing I asked them. It doesn't make any sense to me, but those are the brakes. Enjoy your 8+ week break. Laughing I'm in the same boat.
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Skippy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you understand the concept of LiveScan. The use a device to take your fingerprint to either give you a nice print out or possible send it on the FBI electronically. Reasearching about LiveScan it looks like it might just report to the California Bureau of Justice.

http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/publications/contact.php Comes with a map of locations. Many of them private.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/recording-legible-fingerprints

Great in being in California. Sometimes details like that could be helpful to know. isitts is likely right. BUT you can try applying for one. Then sending it back for the seal. You can always try and maybe get it properly verified.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Do you understand the concept of LiveScan. The use a device to take your fingerprint to either give you a nice print out or possible send it on the FBI electronically. Reasearching about LiveScan it looks like it might just report to the California Bureau of Justice.

http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/publications/contact.php Comes with a map of locations. Many of them private.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/recording-legible-fingerprints

Great in being in California. Sometimes details like that could be helpful to know. isitts is likely right. BUT you can try applying for one. Then sending it back for the seal. You can always try and maybe get it properly verified.


Well, there are places that can take digital scans of your fingerprints and then print those out on your fingerprint card, but that's not the same as electronically sending the live scan prints to the FBI.

You can only electronically send prints if you are applying for work within the US. But for a CBC for work overseas, one that can get an apostlille from the DOS, you gotta have the prints done on the fingerprint card and do it the slow way. It sucks. It's BS. But that's how it is.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the live scan is available for individuals getting there FBI CBC's. It's used only by agencies like the police.
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plchron



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your in california then the trick is getting the california secretary of state to handle the apostille instead of the federal government. Cuts 3 months off turn around time (your still going to wait 2 1/2 months for the FBI CBC).
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Skippy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isitts wrote:

Well, there are places that can take digital scans of your fingerprints and then print those out on your fingerprint card, but that's not the same as electronically sending the live scan prints to the FBI.

You can only electronically send prints if you are applying for work within the US. But for a CBC for work overseas, one that can get an apostlille from the DOS, you gotta have the prints done on the fingerprint card and do it the slow way. It sucks. It's BS. But that's how it is.


Ok .... interesting. Similar with me trying to get a third person RCMP name check done. Only for those who live in Canada.
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teacherfromca



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Americans using the FBI, has anyone ever use a printout (with regular printing paper) to do do the finger printing and get the CBC? The actual fingerprint cards are different/thicker from regular printing paper, so my guess is they wont work. Unless someone has already done it.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacherfromca wrote:
For Americans using the FBI, has anyone ever use a printout (with regular printing paper) to do do the finger printing and get the CBC? The actual fingerprint cards are different/thicker from regular printing paper, so my guess is they wont work. Unless someone has already done it.


You could call the FBI and ask them. I think that would be the most reliable answer.

I've also said in another thread that if you are that worried about it, you can order the fingerprint cards from the FBI for free. Takes about 3 days. If you are not in the US, have them mailed to someone you know in the US and they can mail them to you.

That other thread (mentioned above) is floating around here somewhere, asking the same question you just asked. Might see what it says there.
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teacherfromca



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacherfromca wrote:
Thanks.


No problem. I think having the fingerprint form printed on regular paper might be ok, if I remember correctly. But if you're getting the prints done in Korea, I wasn't really happy with the way the police officer took the prints on that paper (folded it around a ruler and rolled that around my fingers). They came out sloppy and the FBI rejected them. In fairness, they were just poorly done regardless of the paper used. But still, I went back there with the official fingerprint card and those came out fine. Still good to have backup cards though.
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