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is kpop getting better or crapier?
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better or crapier
worse
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better
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thunderbird



Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: is kpop getting better or crapier? Reply with quote

whatya think, improving or getting worse, sure r a lota bands these days
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same.
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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meaning that...
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both.

Some of the top groups are better than the older stuff. I think Big Bang's newest CD is heaps better than their older stuff. However- with the popularity of K-pop there are some really terrible groups out now, just trying to make a 100 won, I suppose.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed a few pretty tight, very funky K-pop tunes recently.......can't even tell you who by.....but it's only 1 in a hundred.......like in all countries, pop in Korea is manufactured pap coming from a twisted and abusive industry.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not my cup of tea, but I can see why 14 year old Asian girls like it.
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Jack_Sarang



Joined: 13 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same but different.

When I first got here ages ago there were 2 big boy bands, H.O.T. and G.O.D. and one big girl group S.E.S.

Now they are cranking them out like Korea has some secret clone factory.

For 95% of these groups there is absolutely nothing markedly different about them. Nothing that distinguishes them as different except the name. The girls and boys themselves are cookie-cutter clones of each other.

It continues to amaze me how K-Pop fans seemingly have the memory capacity of goldfish.
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jpe



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Seoul, SK

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a crapier?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpe wrote:
What's a crapier?


A bad casino dealer?
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crapier

/crap-pee-AY/
An upper-class term for "crapper", or bathroom. Supposedly French in origin, but most likely made up in order to sound sophisticated.
Any woman would love to have that vase adorn her crapier.
buy crapier mugs & shirts


Source--Urban Dictionary
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, I'm convinced that everything in this world from music, fashion, arts, technology, you name it, peaked in the mid to late 90's, and now it's in free fall. There's never been a better time to go alternative in every way, to go off in a tangent.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
Honestly, I'm convinced that everything in this world from music, fashion, arts, technology, you name it, peaked in the mid to late 90's, and now it's in free fall. There's never been a better time to go alternative in every way, to go off in a tangent.


I think there are more terrible music in 80-90s than other times.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
I have noticed a few pretty tight, very funky K-pop tunes recently.......can't even tell you who by.....but it's only 1 in a hundred.......l

Likely to be the ones bought off Euro producers. Almost sounds like they buy the instrumental with basslines and sparse melodies then rap/sing/autotune the most annoying phrases they can come up with over it, then take credit for the whole song.

So much is stolen or copied too. A beat or melody here, a phrase there. If you listen closely there are all sorts of American/British snippets and samples from RNB/rap/pop/indie stuff from 80s,90s and beyond, changed or looped just short enough so that they don't get sued. If it is getting better it's because of outside producers and also production itself is becoming pretty standardized so it's easier than ever to rip off any sound or just buy the samples. And still they manage to turn them into annoying baby nursery rhymes with every cliche thrown in but the kitchen sink.
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Sarang wrote:
Same but different.

When I first got here ages ago there were 2 big boy bands, H.O.T. and G.O.D. and one big girl group S.E.S.

Now they are cranking them out like Korea has some secret clone factory.

For 95% of these groups there is absolutely nothing markedly different about them. Nothing that distinguishes them as different except the name. The girls and boys themselves are cookie-cutter clones of each other.

It continues to amaze me how K-Pop fans seemingly have the memory capacity of goldfish.


It fits with Korea's throw-away culture.

As for the legions of young, willing victims, they know as well as anyone that Korea just throws heaps of people at the wall to see what sticks. All they want is the next international success....that is their agenda, always. Korea is obsessed with branding itself; paradoxically it is this that is making them look cheap and flighty as they feverishly try to jump on each and every potentially exploitable trendy bandwagon. Kpop is garbage, just like in the US. 냄비문화. There is nothing at all more useful in Pumped up Kicks than in any of the parade of idiots we see on weekly TV here. Its all tripe for a shallow audience.
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zdrav



Joined: 08 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon wrote:
It fits with Korea's throw-away culture.


What country's pop culture is NOT "throw-away culture"?
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