Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Grammar question

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
raewon



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Grammar question Reply with quote

I have a question related to the following two sentences:

(1) The monster is too gross to touch it.
(2) The monster is too gross for us to touch it.

In (1) I feel that "it" has to be dropped for the sentence to be grammatically correct, but I feel "it" is required in sentence (2). If that is correct, can someone explain why? And if I'm wrong, please set me straight!

Thanks a lot and have a merry Christmas!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better to drop 'it' from both sentences.

In the first sentences it is just wrong. In the second sentence it is unecessary.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
crisdean



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alistaircandlin wrote:
Better to drop 'it' from both sentences.

In the first sentences it is just wrong. In the second sentence it is unecessary.

I agree.
In (2) "it" is superfluous. Now there's a word I don't generally have a reason to use.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Grammar question Reply with quote

raewon wrote:
I have a question related to the following two sentences:

(1) The monster is too gross to touch it.
(2) The monster is too gross for us to touch it.

In (1) I feel that "it" has to be dropped for the sentence to be grammatically correct, but I feel "it" is required in sentence (2). If that is correct, can someone explain why? And if I'm wrong, please set me straight!

Thanks a lot and have a merry Christmas!



If the first sentence is using anaphoric reference with the monster being the antecedent of the pronoun 'it' (it=monster)....then it should be removed...redundant.

However, in that same first sentence...the pronoun 'it' may just be causing confusion...it is not necessarily wrong.

If the antecedent is exophoric...then 'it' could be 'a sweet young baby'
The monster is too gross to touch the sweet young baby.
We don't want the monster touching it.
The monster is too gross to touch it.

In the second sentence, as has already been posted, 'it', for some, is viewed as 'superfluous'.Wink
For others, 'it' may be seen as more formal...some writers don't like relying on the use of ellipsis when the pronoun is easily kept and doesn't cause undo confusion.

Happy Holidays Reawon! Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International