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Dongducheon versus Itaewon

 
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Dongducheon versus Itaewon Reply with quote

More generally, where do you recommend going (if anywhere) to get a taste of the "old Korea" - Korea the way it once was? I've noticed over the past year or two a sense of distraught amongst some posters over the way Korea has modernized, both economically and perhaps more so, socially. For example, some of us pine for the old Itaewon, and are depressed to see the way Itaewon has been sanitized, commercialized, and popularized. I suppose a good chunk of posters see these as good things, but I will ignore that point for the moment.

This post is for the ones that long for the "wild west" days of Korea; when there were 'villes filled with houses of ill repute; when the Korean won was worthless; when imported beer was no where to be found; when things were dirty (again, plenty of people think Korea still is a dirty trash-ridden cess pool, but we can all agree it's not as bad as it used to be); when leaving the door each morning embedded one with a real sense of adventure; when no Korean broad spoke a lick of English besides "me loovvee youu looonngggg timmme!"; when adjosshis would still regularly thank every Yank they saw for helping out in the Korean war.

Where can one go these days to get a taste of the "old" Korea? Where do you go? Is it a ville in Dongducheon? Other villes outside of US bases? Is a place like this even possible to find? Leave your thoughts.
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Rutherford



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the Phillipines.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downrange at Camp Casey.

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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely not Itaewon lol
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motiontodismiss



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rutherford wrote:
Try the Phillipines.


This. Also the backwaters of China, Iraq (sans insurgency), Afghanistan, North Korea, etc.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "old Itaewon?"

*laugh*

I think the closest you're going to find is probably Songtan/Osan.

Dongducheon is even smaller. I haven't been to either in a few years, although I did go to Dongducheon last year during the early afternoon when everything was closed. It seemed it would be similar in the evenings (same old bars still there). But didn't that area get hit by bad flooding this fall? I thought I saw that in the news.
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toby99



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Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
Rutherford wrote:
Try the Phillipines.


This. Also the backwaters of China, Iraq (sans insurgency), Afghanistan, North Korea, etc.


I was thinking domestic, but it sounds like it might not be possible. I'll have to give Songtan a try. I was hoping there might a "diamond in the rough" type of place somewhere in the rural parts of the peninsula...
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dongducheon, or 똥두촌, is a real dive and my friend who used to live there say the natives there are horrendous. I was there once and don't remember much of the place but at least it was the setting for a few gritty Korean films.
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
Dongducheon, or 똥두촌, is a real dive and my friend who used to live there say the natives there are horrendous. I was there once and don't remember much of the place but at least it was the setting for a few gritty Korean films.


Sounds like my kinda place. I'm not a military man, but I've always wanted to sample that sort of "off-base" life as it was in the good ol days, so to speak. With a good chunk of Hooker Hill destroyed in the fire a month or two ago, I'm worried the complexion of the whole Itaewon ville will change and lose what little character it has left.

What are some of the other bases in Korea? The only ones I am familiar with are Dongduchon/Camp Casey, Osan, Songtan, Daegu(?), and the camp on the DMZ. I should note that I'm not exclusively looking for 'military villages', as it were, but I'm using that description as a shorthand because it is the best way I can think of to describe the sort of place that can provide the type of experience I am looking for. I appreciate all of the responses.

And yes, I have been told I should check out Clark in the Philippines, haha. It's on my bucket list.


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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What little character it has left? Oh geez, better Hooker Hill go up in flames any day.
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T-J



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


You're about twenty years to late to be checking out anything outside of Clark or Subic.....

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