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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Differences in manners you don't mind? Reply with quote

Bad manners in Korea and what we receive to be bad manners are talked to death here. But what are some differences in etiquette that you don't mind, or actually like?

For me, I don't really care that people don't open doors for people. In the States I hated having to hurry to pass a doorway because I felt sorry for the person keeping the door open for me. I also didn't like it when I open a door for somebody only to find like a dozen people behind him/her. Here, I just stroll in buildings without worrying about that stuff. I don't like having a door slammed in my face, but that rarely happens.

I also don't mind the bowing from a distance when meeting new people in groups instead of going around and shaking every individual's hand. You can just bow to the group as a while and be done with it. Maybe I'm just lazy and maybe I'm not a people person but I prefer it. Sometimes its better to have the individual to individual greeting with a firm handshake and eye contact, but sometimes its a pain in the ass.
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absane



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is when when I hold doors open for Koreans, I rarely hear a thank you. I am not irritated by it, just intrigues me. They won't look at me in the eye and they often times try to rush pass me hoping that I don't notice them. It's just an idle curiosity of mine. Though, when I do hear a thank you I feel delighted.

One thing I like (and it never happened to me in the States) is how if I am sitting next to an older Korean, he or she will sometimes offer me food. I was watching a dance competition at COEX last Saturday and an ajumma sitting next to me gave me an ice cream sandwich.

And one last thing that comes to mind is when I am standing in the subway car, sometimes an old man will offer me a seat next to him in the handicapped/older Korean section of the car.
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Differences in manners you don't mind? Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Bad manners in Korea and what we receive to be bad manners are talked to death here. But what are some differences in etiquette that you don't mind, or actually like?

For me, I don't really care that people don't open doors for people. In the States I hated having to hurry to pass a doorway because I felt sorry for the person keeping the door open for me. I also didn't like it when I open a door for somebody only to find like a dozen people behind him/her. Here, I just stroll in buildings without worrying about that stuff. I don't like having a door slammed in my face, but that rarely happens.

I also don't mind the bowing from a distance when meeting new people in groups instead of going around and shaking every individual's hand. You can just bow to the group as a while and be done with it. Maybe I'm just lazy and maybe I'm not a people person but I prefer it. Sometimes its better to have the individual to individual greeting with a firm handshake and eye contact, but sometimes its a pain in the ass.


Spitting. I hate a build up of mucous in my mouth. Get that crap out Koreans, damn right. I usually give a nod of approval when I see it.

No seat belts. I have a feeling he's going to drive more carefully without them, or he might live to regret it. - not sure if that qualifies as manners


The rest of the unfavorable manners (staring, random slogans, pushing) don't annoy me, but they distract me or slow me down, and I don't need that.
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like not saying "bless you" or something like that when someone sneezes. Reacting to a sneeze like that is an anachronism.

By the way, this is a good topic idea.
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ssuprnova



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slurping while eating noodles. Seriously, who came up with that rule!?

Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.

As someone already mentioned, spitting. I never spit at home, but the air quality in Seoul is pretty bad. You gotta do what you gotta do.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of us out in the sticks when walking by a newly fertilized field and getting a god ol whiff that you can taste, spitting is mandatory to avoid gagging and hurling.

Remember, smell is based off of microscopic particles hitting your nose. That means if you can smell and taste cow patties, you've got cow patty in your mouth.

Slurping noodles is fine, noodles are hot so slurping cools them. If you wait to long, the noodles lose their texture. I don't like it though. I just don't mind it. Kinda like the spitting, an unfortunate necessity.

The biggest one I like is group conversations and discussions. While they can stray into old ajosshi droning on and on to the youngsters, with a heavy dose of group think, territory, amongst peers its quite nice that typical conversations over issues don't dissolve into shouting matches between two attention-seeking people with competing viewpoints as everyone else just kinda zones off or talks about something else. People actually listen instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.
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Wildbore



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssuprnova wrote:
Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.


Sharing food/cups is one of the dumbest customs I can think of in modern times.

It is horrible hygeine. No surprise Koreans always have cold sores around their mouths. Mouth herpres = AMAZING.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatertot wrote:
I like not saying "bless you" or something like that when someone sneezes. Reacting to a sneeze like that is an anachronism.

By the way, this is a good topic idea.


Yeah, I like the Koren idea of ignoring a sneeze instead of calling attention to it. Hard to get back in the habit of saying back at "home" though!
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cfile2



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wildbore wrote:
ssuprnova wrote:
Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.


Sharing food/cups is one of the dumbest customs I can think of in modern times.

It is horrible hygeine. No surprise Koreans always have cold sores around their mouths. Mouth herpres = AMAZING.


Ummmm first of all no. I don't see the majority of Koreans walking around with throbbing cold sores.

Secondly, you probably have herpes yourself. Fact: most people do. And you probably got it from your mom or something (and that isn't me making a mom joke).

Herpes aside, I also love the sharing food custom. I think its cute when my girlfriend makes a 쌈 for me over BBQ. I like the table manners in general here.
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Perceptioncheck



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have actually grown to enjoy the free-for-all when trying to get on the subways in rush hour. The sight of a pushy adjumma ricocheting off my considerably larger frame is surprisingly satisfying; it can be a wonderful outlet for pent up aggression.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cfile2 wrote:
Wildbore wrote:
ssuprnova wrote:
Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.


Sharing food/cups is one of the dumbest customs I can think of in modern times.

It is horrible hygeine. No surprise Koreans always have cold sores around their mouths. Mouth herpres = AMAZING.


Ummmm first of all no. I don't see the majority of Koreans walking around with throbbing cold sores.

Secondly, you probably have herpes yourself. Fact: most people do. And you probably got it from your mom or something (and that isn't me making a mom joke).

Herpes aside, I also love the sharing food custom. I think its cute when my girlfriend makes a 쌈 for me over BBQ. I like the table manners in general here.


I see a heck of a lot more people with them than I do back home.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

absane wrote:
They won't look at me in the eye and they often times try to rush pass me hoping that I don't notice them.


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I would be creeped out if someone held the door open for me and then gazed expectantly at me, waiting for some sort of acknowledgement. Maybe it's just the way you phrase it, but you make it sound like you're looking at the person intently, waiting for eye contact.

They rush past you because they realize you're holding the door open and try to be considerate enough to get it over with. It's the very thing fermentation said he hates having to do in the West, hurry through a door because someone is being overly polite and holding it open way too soon.

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I like the drinking etiquette (in casual settings, big boss stuff gets lame). But only with Koreans. When Westerners start expecting me to pour in the same fashion I get perturbed by it.

Can't think of much else at the moment...I'm sure there's more but drawing a blank.
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind when westerners abide by Korean drinking etiquette. What annoys me is when Korean-Americans go overboard with it.

Most of the stuff here doesn't bother me. I'm a fast walker, so I don't register Koreans as being pushy. I only ever get shoved or bumped when I'm in Itaewon, by other foreigners. I don't recall seeing Koreans spitting very often, but it was much more conspicuous when I was in China.

Remember a few weeks ago, when I posted a thread complaining about Koreans opening umbrellas indoors? Yeah, didn't bother me. Pretty logical thing to do actually.
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cfile2 wrote:
Wildbore wrote:
ssuprnova wrote:
Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.


Sharing food/cups is one of the dumbest customs I can think of in modern times.

It is horrible hygeine. No surprise Koreans always have cold sores around their mouths. Mouth herpres = AMAZING.


Ummmm first of all no. I don't see the majority of Koreans walking around with throbbing cold sores.

Secondly, you probably have herpes yourself. Fact: most people do. And you probably got it from your mom or something (and that isn't me making a mom joke).

Herpes aside, I also love the sharing food custom. I think its cute when my girlfriend makes a 쌈 for me over BBQ. I like the table manners in general here.



ssuprnova, you think too much like a sterilized everything-should-be-in-its-own-packaging type of person. from the beginning of time people have shared food and utensils. as long as you wash them between uses and don't keep them sitting around in piles of poo where the cleanliness is obviously suspect, then the sharing of bacteria is actually GOOD for people. is there a correlation between people being so exceedingly germaphobic in the usa compared to the fact that it's one of the most medicated countries in the world? well, you can ponder that one for yourself.

long story short, your type of thinking is why chemical companies make a ton of money off selling you scented alcohol in a bottle as "hand sanitizer" when it actually doesn't help at all in most typical situations and in fact helps to create super virus strains.

also, i've never seen a single korean with cold sores. granted this doesn't mean they don't have them, but your example is pretty ass-poor.

use your heads people.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
cfile2 wrote:
Wildbore wrote:
ssuprnova wrote:
Also, sharing food. I actually like this custom a lot.


Sharing food/cups is one of the dumbest customs I can think of in modern times.

It is horrible hygeine. No surprise Koreans always have cold sores around their mouths. Mouth herpres = AMAZING.


Ummmm first of all no. I don't see the majority of Koreans walking around with throbbing cold sores.

Secondly, you probably have herpes yourself. Fact: most people do. And you probably got it from your mom or something (and that isn't me making a mom joke).

Herpes aside, I also love the sharing food custom. I think its cute when my girlfriend makes a 쌈 for me over BBQ. I like the table manners in general here.



ssuprnova, you think too much like a sterilized everything-should-be-in-its-own-packaging type of person. from the beginning of time people have shared food and utensils. as long as you wash them between uses and don't keep them sitting around in piles of poo where the cleanliness is obviously suspect, then the sharing of bacteria is actually GOOD for people. is there a correlation between people being so exceedingly germaphobic in the usa compared to the fact that it's one of the most medicated countries in the world? well, you can ponder that one for yourself.

long story short, your type of thinking is why chemical companies make a ton of money off selling you scented alcohol in a bottle as "hand sanitizer" when it actually doesn't help at all in most typical situations and in fact helps to create super virus strains.

also, i've never seen a single korean with cold sores. granted this doesn't mean they don't have them, but your example is pretty ass-poor.

use your heads people.

You don't see them that much these days, but when I first came to Korea they were everywhere. Maybe hygiene in restaurants, etc. has improved or there is less sharing of glasses when drinking.
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