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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Deskwarming Reply with quote

Just signed a GEPIK contract. I am a previous hagwon teacher.

Is deskwarming really that bad? A lot of people complain about it but to hagwon teachers it doesn't seem that bad. It's being paid to do nothing. I'm a person who loves to read and watch movies and finds it very easy to keep myself occupied on the internet.

Any input appreciated.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't that bad. I was very cold, because the heating was sub par, but with my own heater, a kindle, and plenty of time to play online, the time passed. It's more insulting than anything. I was a full year ahead of schedule on my lesson planning, so I was bored out of my mind. There's only so much you can do on a crappy computer in a cold room.

I honestly prefer my hagwon job now. The only thing that I miss is the extra week and 2 days of vacation that I had through EPIK. On the other hand, my hagwon boss let me book this year's winter vacation in September, confirmed via email. I always had to wait until the very last minute at PS. This saved me a chunk of money, as I was able to book 2 round-trip tickets to Europe for much less than if I'd had to wait until December.
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it really isn't that bad. I, too, came from a hogwan to a PS and anyone else who took a similar path would not have much of a problem with it, either. My only complaints are;

a) at my old school the heat would be turned off in the winter. Often times, the electricity would be, too.

b) Not allowed to take official vacation at that time so I can come sit in an empty school.

c) Parents treat the school like a daycare and will sent their kids here just to run around and scream all day, open my door, bang on walls, etc. Usual no respect for school thing here.

But it's really not that bad. I think what gets to many people is the inequity of it, some people get to just stay home (but complaining will only make those people come in to desk warm, you won't be sent home for your efforts). Also, we could be doing something more constructive but instead it's usually saved to dropped on us all at once randomly at some other point. Enjoy it, do what you want and have some fun. There's worse things than being paid to do nothing all day (anyone who's had a 'real' job would agree).
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Deskwarming Reply with quote

thebektionary wrote:
Just signed a GEPIK contract. I am a previous hagwon teacher.

Is deskwarming really that bad? A lot of people complain about it but to hagwon teachers it doesn't seem that bad. It's being paid to do nothing. I'm a person who loves to read and watch movies and finds it very easy to keep myself occupied on the internet.

Any input appreciated.


Totally depends on you and how you a) view the practice and b) spend your deskwarming time. You'll get a mixed reaction on here based on the poster's personality.

I personally think its BS based on its origins as I was told from older teachers who have been here a long time. From my understanding from old timers once school was out, you were free to go and the old timers said that tales of sand and surf in Thailand, etc. made the Korean co teachers and administration jealous that teachers were getting paid while they were 'stuck' here and 'desk warming' was created as a result. IF that's the case then its total BS and my opinion is based on that. If deskwarming has always been part of the program then I may not see the logic in it but will have a more temperate view of it.
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ironclad80



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that bad, except for the "why do I have to even come here today?"
feeling. The day goes slower but if you like to read, surf the Internet, or listen to music it's a breeze. This is during winter/summer break.

During regular school session I'm usually busy teaching in the morning and by the time lunch is finished it's already 1pm. I usually spend that time preparing tomorrow's classes and when that's finished I only have 1 or 2 hours of "deskwarming" left.
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ironclad80



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one more thing, as said above, definitely invest in a small portable heater! my office feels like walking into a freezer in the morning. it's actually colder than outside! luckily, there is a korean teacher working in the same office with me during the break (I have a feeling if it was only me they'd be less gracious with the heat).
there was also already a portable ceramic heater here.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Deskwarming Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
thebektionary wrote:
Just signed a GEPIK contract. I am a previous hagwon teacher.

Is deskwarming really that bad? A lot of people complain about it but to hagwon teachers it doesn't seem that bad. It's being paid to do nothing. I'm a person who loves to read and watch movies and finds it very easy to keep myself occupied on the internet.

Any input appreciated.


Totally depends on you and how you a) view the practice and b) spend your deskwarming time. You'll get a mixed reaction on here based on the poster's personality.

I personally think its BS based on its origins as I was told from older teachers who have been here a long time. From my understanding from old timers once school was out, you were free to go and the old timers said that tales of sand and surf in Thailand, etc. made the Korean co teachers and administration jealous that teachers were getting paid while they were 'stuck' here and 'desk warming' was created as a result. IF that's the case then its total BS and my opinion is based on that. If deskwarming has always been part of the program then I may not see the logic in it but will have a more temperate view of it.


Not quite what actually happened. Many foreign teachers were mostly free to go and stay home right up to around 2004-5. Then other foreign teachers started getting jealous and complaining to their schools and the local board of Education...in several cases going so far as to send a letter to the POE (yes that really happened). Basically it was "So-and-so down the road gets to spend his winter vacation at home, why can't I?"

Eventually EPIK and GEPIK got tired of this B.S and stated that all teachers must come in. So if you must blame someone blame the jealous foreign teachers who bitched about others getting a better deal. It's been common knowledge on this forum for a while now...seek out old threads on deskwarming.
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Deskwarming Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
thebektionary wrote:
Just signed a GEPIK contract. I am a previous hagwon teacher.

Is deskwarming really that bad? A lot of people complain about it but to hagwon teachers it doesn't seem that bad. It's being paid to do nothing. I'm a person who loves to read and watch movies and finds it very easy to keep myself occupied on the internet.

Any input appreciated.


Totally depends on you and how you a) view the practice and b) spend your deskwarming time. You'll get a mixed reaction on here based on the poster's personality.

I personally think its BS based on its origins as I was told from older teachers who have been here a long time. From my understanding from old timers once school was out, you were free to go and the old timers said that tales of sand and surf in Thailand, etc. made the Korean co teachers and administration jealous that teachers were getting paid while they were 'stuck' here and 'desk warming' was created as a result. IF that's the case then its total BS and my opinion is based on that. If deskwarming has always been part of the program then I may not see the logic in it but will have a more temperate view of it.


I don't think that was ever the reason for desk warming. Remember, unless you're on official holiday you aren't supposed to leave the country. Yes, I doubt the office of education has a direct line to Incheon airport but there are ways to find out. So those teachers would have already been incriminating themselves by talking about Thailand if they weren't on official leave to begin with. Anyway, think about it. Korean teachers can go to those same beaches with proper approval just like we can not to mention the fact that we still go to those beaches each break and bore our co-teacher's to death with our stories, so where does making us desk warm change anything?

The fact is back in the day desk warming was mandatory at some schools and not at others (you still had to 'work from home', aka not leave the country). Then some people complained about being forced to come in while their friends got to sleep in, and like an ugly virus it spread so now most teachers have to do at least some desk warming to appease the bosses. Once the offices of education heard that some people could just stay home, they told the schools to put us to work but most schools have no idea what to do with us, so here we sit. This is one of the biggest cultural differences between Anglo-countries and Korea. Just being present is considered work here. So in the eyes of the superiors we are 'working'. I've been told I'm a good worker for taking an extra long nap and leaving work 30 mins late. Enjoy it while you can, I guess.
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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly is the point of deskwarming? Why come in if you have no classes, just because it isn't an official holiday? Why don't kids show up?
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ironclad80



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porksta wrote:
What exactly is the point of deskwarming? Why come in if you have no classes, just because it isn't an official holiday? Why don't kids show up?


they are on winter break.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if no one is there, i would just put running shoes on and run around the school for exercise.
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ironclad80



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebektionary wrote:
if no one is there, i would just put running shoes on and run around the school for exercise.


there are a few kids lingering around, principal and maybe one or two teachers. you can't wear running shoes in the school! slippers only!!
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ssuprnova



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure where the complaints come from. I know that back home summer is considered unpaid vacation for many teachers.
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strange_brew



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironclad80 wrote:
thebektionary wrote:
if no one is there, i would just put running shoes on and run around the school for exercise.


there are a few kids lingering around, principal and maybe one or two teachers. you can't wear running shoes in the school! slippers only!!


Yeah, they tried to tell me to wear slippers in my ice-box school. Not going to happen.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironclad80 wrote:
thebektionary wrote:
if no one is there, i would just put running shoes on and run around the school for exercise.


there are a few kids lingering around, principal and maybe one or two teachers. you can't wear running shoes in the school! slippers only!!


oh yeah, forgot about that one. i've been out of korea for too long now.
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