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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: 5 Day Paternity Leave / Make Babies / No Money??? |
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Here's the beauty,
http://www.thomsons.asia/page/26481/international/events-and-knowledge/employee-reward-and-benefits-news/articles/korean-govt-approves-five-day-paternity-leave?
In the article, they state, "five days of paternity leave", "an attempt to encourage the population to procreate", and the clincher why the birth rate is low, "this is due to parent's inability to meet childcare."
I don't think I am taking it out of context, feel free to correct me if I read it wrong. Are they saying that fathers get 5 days due to encouraging them to make babies in a world where they don't have the funds or time to support that baby? Now they will have to pay for childcare services. Babies don't grow up much after 5 days.
Doesn't seem like they thought this one out, or they going to have one Korean father babysit all the other babies for 5 days, then pass the baton to the next new father?  |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: 5 Day Paternity Leave / Make Babies / No Money??? |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| ...or they going to have one Korean father babysit all the other babies for 5 days, then pass the baton to the next new father? |
that would be a hilariously awesome idea! |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Poltergeist wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
What country do they reside? |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
What country do they reside? |
Canada (Quebec). I can't remember how many months it was but it was a lot better than five days. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Poltergeist wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
That would be appalling, if it were true. Fortunately, it isn't, thanks to the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/benefits-leave/fmla.htm |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
That would be appalling, if it were true. Fortunately, it isn't, thanks to the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/benefits-leave/fmla.htm |
That act only applies to businesses with 50 or more workers in a 75 mile radius. Most people are either left out, or must negotiate their own benefits. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Wildbore wrote: |
| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
I think it's still more days than in the USA. |
Well, that's appalling. I think my sister and her husband got to split several months between them. |
That would be appalling, if it were true. Fortunately, it isn't, thanks to the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/benefits-leave/fmla.htm |
That act only applies to businesses with 50 or more workers in a 75 mile radius. Most people are either left out, or must negotiate their own benefits. |
It's unpaid in the states too. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Poltergeist wrote: |
Yeah, five days isn't much. That's self-evident.
It could be that making a tiny change makes it easier for the government to say "we've dealt with that" when pressure groups approach them demanding real change. |
Don't forget that with weekends, this period can be as long as 9 days!
After 10 days the baby is just old enough to be enrolled in English and Maths hagwons so this amount of leave is sufficient. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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What the hell is is paternity leave?
I've heard of maternity leave, and I've never heard of the father taking a paternity leave.
In the US, if you have a baby, you use your vacation days. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: 5 Day Paternity Leave / Make Babies / No Money??? |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| Babies don't grow up much after 5 days. |
Not sure you're getting the fundamental difference between paternity leave and maternity. The five days is to allow enough time for husbands to impregnate their wives. When the baby is born, maternity leave will take care of the rest.
EDIT: Nevermind. I should have read the article first. Yeah, this is worthless. In the end, companies are actually offering you two days of lost salary to support your new baby. If money is the reason people aren't having babies, then maybe the companies could pay more or the economic model could/should be changed. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| In the US, if you have a baby, you use your vacation days. |
If your company gives you vacation days.
US is the only industrialized country that does not require vacation days. |
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cfile2
Joined: 28 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: 5 Day Paternity Leave / Make Babies / No Money??? |
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| isitts wrote: |
| koreatimes wrote: |
| Babies don't grow up much after 5 days. |
Not sure you're getting the fundamental difference between paternity leave and maternity. The five days is to allow enough time for husbands to impregnate their wives. When the baby is born, maternity leave will take care of the rest.
EDIT: Nevermind. I should have read the article first. Yeah, this is worthless. In the end, companies are actually offering you two days of lost salary to support your new baby. If money is the reason people aren't having babies, then maybe the companies could pay more or the economic model could/should be changed. |
I'm not sure if you actually thought this was true or if you were just making a joke.
The edit seems to suggest you actually thought this. That is too funny.
How would that conversation go exactly?
"Ahem... excuse me sir.... I uh...I need a few days off."
"For what?"
"  " |
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