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Most S.Koreans dread year-end drinks parties: survey
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Most S.Koreans dread year-end drinks parties: survey Reply with quote

A majority of office workers in hard-drinking South Korea dread the customary year-end drinks parties or banquets hosted by their bosses, according to a survey.

A poll of 1,035 employees by recruitment portal Job Korea found that almost 70 percent are tired of the traditional binge drinking to mark Christmas and the New Year.

Some 21.5 percent of respondents said they had no choice but to attend the drinking parties and only 8.6 percent said they looked forward to them.

Asked which parties they disliked the most, almost 61 percent cited formal events with a hierarchical atmosphere which makes it impossible to relax.

Some 55.6 percent took exception to gatherings featuring endless rounds of drinking.

Asked what they would prefer to do, about 60 percent of respondents suggested going to a concert or engaging in some other enjoyable social activity with co-workers.

The survey was conducted in late November. It did not give a margin of error or specify the age groups of those questioned.

South Koreans in general drink heavily at work parties and social gatherings. According to health ministry statistics, 14.9 percent of the population drinks excessively compared with a world average of 11.5 percent.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/12363792/most-s-koreans-dread-year-end-drinks-parties-survey/
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the drinking parties. I hate having to wake up and go to work at the same time.

If Korean bosses made it so that the people who drank until the very end could take the next day off, I think more people would enjoy it.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I love the drinking parties. I hate having to wake up and go to work at the same time.

If Korean bosses made it so that the people who drank until the very end could take the next day off, I think more people would enjoy it.


Projecting your own personal preferances onto a whole nation of people? Rolling Eyes

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Asked which parties they disliked the most, almost 61 percent cited formal events with a hierarchical atmosphere which makes it impossible to relax.


Seems 61% of the people you 'think' would enjoy it, have other reasons for not liking the drinking parties other than hangovers.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
I love the drinking parties. I hate having to wake up and go to work at the same time.

If Korean bosses made it so that the people who drank until the very end could take the next day off, I think more people would enjoy it.


Projecting your own personal preferances onto a whole nation of people? Rolling Eyes

Quote:
Asked which parties they disliked the most, almost 61 percent cited formal events with a hierarchical atmosphere which makes it impossible to relax.


Seems 61% of the people you 'think' would enjoy it, have other reasons for not liking the drinking parties other than hangovers.


Trolling my threads again? sigh...

I said "think" intending they are my opinions.

Whereas in your statements, you portray then as FACTS not opinions.

there is a big different between an opinion and a statement of fact. Maybe you should go back and read your old threads.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I said "think" intending they are my opinions.


What does that even mean? Jeez. Rolling Eyes
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think many dread those things because that means you have to hang with coworkers beyond work hours. Unlike in the U.S., many Koreans don't particularly care for coworkers due to office politics, conflicts and the like. Work takes too much of their time and for them to be forced to go to dinners and such is another whammy.

I've gone to many a year-end party and the staff has to pretend that they want to be there or are enjoying themselves. The boss can either be nice or a real @#$#!! but gets drunk and has his staff listen to his often stupid stories or opinions. Pathetic.

The worst is the office trips to the mountains or skiing. Nobody wants to go but has to.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
Quote:
I said "think" intending they are my opinions.


What does that even mean? Jeez. Rolling Eyes


Passive aggressive much?

Go here (http://forums.eslcafe.com/student/) until you are mature enough to join grownup discussions.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
The Floating World wrote:
Quote:
I said "think" intending they are my opinions.


What does that even mean? Jeez. Rolling Eyes


Passive aggressive much?

Go here (http://forums.eslcafe.com/student/) until you are mature enough to join grownup discussions.


NO, I'm not, I'm very direct. Instead of your pass / agg ad hominem attacks, why don't you just respond to my question and clarify what your sentence is supposed to mean please?
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another drawback to office functions after work (and this doesn't just apply to year-end bashes) is that the functions are often occasions for asskissers to brown nose around the boss. They'll laugh at his or her stupid jokes, say "oh really" every time the boss says something no matter how trivial or retarded, and the like. I know this happens throughout the world but gosh, they make it an art here.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
The Floating World wrote:
Quote:
I said "think" intending they are my opinions.


What does that even mean? Jeez. Rolling Eyes


Passive aggressive much?

Go here (http://forums.eslcafe.com/student/) until you are mature enough to join grownup discussions.


NO, I'm not, I'm very direct. Instead of your pass / agg ad hominem attacks, why don't you just respond to my question and clarify what your sentence is supposed to mean please?


You two remind me of the arguments I had with my ex before we split up, lol.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda of ruins the image of the typical Korean adjushi (so beloved on Dave's) as a soju-loving brute, doesn't it?
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FDNY



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember this one time we went drinking with the boss until like 5:30 in the morning. Then he drove us, pissed, so we could work at 6:30AM. The students were really laughing at my booze and smokes breath. haha
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
I think many dread those things because that means you have to hang with coworkers beyond work hours. Unlike in the U.S., many Koreans don't particularly care for coworkers due to office politics, conflicts and the like. Work takes too much of their time and for them to be forced to go to dinners and such is another whammy.

I've gone to many a year-end party and the staff has to pretend that they want to be there or are enjoying themselves. The boss can either be nice or a real @#$#!! but gets drunk and has his staff listen to his often stupid stories or opinions. Pathetic.

The worst is the office trips to the mountains or skiing. Nobody wants to go but has to.



i don't completely agree with this. i never particularly cared for my coworkers when i worked at an american corporation because most of them were selfish and malicious. however, i find most of my coworkers here to be genuinely nice and incredibly helpful. i do agree that i don't enjoy going out with them but not for the reason you listed. why i don't like to go out with them is because many of them are too boring and reserved for me and as much as i like them in the office i don't enjoy their company outside of it. maybe my office is an outlier, but i never observe any office politics or conflicts like i did at my job in the usa. working at my current job is like taking a lazy sunday nap in a tranquil eden compared to past jobs i had in the states.
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Chimie



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
Yaya wrote:
I think many dread those things because that means you have to hang with coworkers beyond work hours. Unlike in the U.S., many Koreans don't particularly care for coworkers due to office politics, conflicts and the like. Work takes too much of their time and for them to be forced to go to dinners and such is another whammy.

I've gone to many a year-end party and the staff has to pretend that they want to be there or are enjoying themselves. The boss can either be nice or a real @#$#!! but gets drunk and has his staff listen to his often stupid stories or opinions. Pathetic.

The worst is the office trips to the mountains or skiing. Nobody wants to go but has to.


i don't completely agree with this. i never particularly cared for my coworkers when i worked at an american corporation because most of them were selfish and malicious. however, i find most of my coworkers here to be genuinely nice and incredibly helpful. i do agree that i don't enjoy going out with them but not for the reason you listed. why i don't like to go out with them is because many of them are too boring and reserved for me and as much as i like them in the office i don't enjoy their company outside of it. maybe my office is an outlier, but i never observe any office politics or conflicts like i did at my job in the usa. working at my current job is like taking a lazy sunday nap in a tranquil eden compared to past jobs i had in the states.



+1

Maybe it's just 'cause I'm the funny foreigner, but haven't heard of any coworkers fighting or politiking. They all seem to be civil to each other well enough. In America I remember hearing people just openly shit all over each other through their words/actions even in the office.

We have had a few out of office extracurricular activities between the two schools owned by the big boss. I've not seen or heard of anyone object to those. Free food and drink? It's great.
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally love these types of parties, but I think it's also true that most of the teachers don't want to attend, particularly the women. Nonetheless, it's interesting to notice the changes in the demeanor of the group as the night wears on - during the first round everyone is very subdued, mindful of the hierarchical customs and afraid to "lose face", but by the 3-4th round those that are left (usually the adjosshi's and the more liberal younger female teachers) are drunk out of their skulls, chain-smokin, fartin, knocking back shots of soju left and right, throwing around banmal like it's going out of fashion, doing love shots with the hot young coed fresh out of ed-school, etc. So as much as some people find these parties to be an annoyance, I think many also find them to be a great way to cut loose and step outside of the cultural norms for a short while.
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